I may have given this answer before, but get out your trusty Radio Shack meter & see where the juice stops. See my story under the Sept 1999 entry at http://members.home.net/rsrodgers/DMCservice.htm . My problem was a loose ground wire on the solenoid! As far as DMCJoe's comment, you can tell if the service mod has been done if there is no BROWN wire going to the starter solenoid, and there are only THREE brown wires on the relay at position 22 or 23 in the figure on the Sept entry. EVERY D owner should have the Shop Manual, Parts Book, and Service Bulletins! They are available from PJ Grady and several other's. The Parts Manual is available for download on the DMCNews site! Anyone have other resources available online? Robert S. Rodgers VIN 17015 rsrodgers@xxxx http://members.home.net/rsrodgers > I finally installed my rebuilt starter and solenoid today hoping it would > solve my problem but it didnt. When I turn the key a little I hear the pump > going and when I turn it all the way to the starting position I just get one > click from behind the passenger seat. what could be the problem? I look