All, Perhaps it just me, but I think out of repsect for the family of Mr. Lang that posting pictures of the car he was killed in is in rather poor taste. I know we are all interested in "crash worthiness" of our cars, but the fact is he didn't live through this terrible accident. I think it's rather morbid and unrespectful. There's the curiosity factor here, I understand that, but I know if it where my child killed in this accident I would be mad as hell for someone snapping pictures of the car and posting it. Also. *please* lets not get into debates about the physics of 2 cars hitting each other at what speed........ Tom Watkins #5732