In a message dated 11/5/99 10:46:28 PM Eastern Standard Time, DaleSchaub@xxxx writes: << The Park Avenue offices have nothing to do with his budget overruns. I run an office and his Park Avenue office cost are extremely small when compared to other expenses. Although I have not tried DeLorean's approach, I do not see it as the reason he needed money. >> Apparently you do not understand about Park Ave New York,It is/was THE most expensive place at the time to have a office,it was not unheard of, to pay upwards of $100,000 or more per month in 1981 dollars appox.($400,000 in todays dollars)per month for a office on Park Ave ridiculous for a startup company.There were less expensive areas that would have impressed his clients,than throw good money at Park ave,again the downfall of DMC was NOT the car but the man himself for foolish spending,and not sticking to his original plans to make the car as originally planned.