Let me tell you a tale of woe. In recent months, my doors have been rather saggy on my DMC. Being a novice at repairing my Delorean, I took note from many experts who have said "do not try to adjust your torsion bars yourself". So instead, I decided I would replace my door lift pistons, as everyone recommends this procedure first. Taking the pins out of the pistons is all too easy... but let me tell you, snapping the pistons out from their nipples takes a bit of force. I certainly found out the hard way exactly how freakin' heavy those doors really are. I'm not a small guy, and I near crushed my head in when I was standing under the door at the moment I pulled out a piston. Anyways, I thought I'd share with the group that although the pistons look like the keep the door from going up too fast, they actually do the exact opposite :> Anyone: how much does that door weigh minus a lift piston? J -- J.D. Robbins Project Lead, BRIT Inc. http://www.brit.ca BBCanada Inc. http://www.bbcanada.com - Dream as if you'll live forever. Live as if you'll die today -