The drain plug is on the front surface of the oil sump. If you run your fingers along the front edge of the pan between the pan and the frame you should be able to feel it. It is not a normal plug. It uses a square bit instead of a torx bit or open end wrenct. Mike Griese Storage Software Development Manager IBM Storage Systems Division Rochester, MN 55901 Internet: magriese@xxxx voice: (507)253-1853 fax: (507)253-2880 "yugoman" <mdrig@xxxx> on 06/22/99 07:48:53 PM Please respond to dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxx To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxx cc: (bcc: Mike Griese/Rochester/IBM) Subject: [DML] Oil Since my car has less than 18K on it, I'm thinking of switching it to a synthetic oil. I have two questions: I change oil in the driveway, can't find the plug in the D. Where is the drain plug and what size is it? Also, does anyone have experience with synthetics, pro or con? Any recommendations? Thanks! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ eGroups Spotlight: "Lucid Dreaming" - Tips, techniques, and discussion of any topic related to lucid dreaming. http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/112 eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/dmcnews http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications ------------------------------------------------------------------------ eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/dmcnews http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications