Mike The only thing ever mentioned on the DML has been a source for cross-drilled rotors. I suppose you could get this place to NOT drill them. Cross drilled rotors (this will probably start another debate) are not normally recommended for street driving due to shortened service life, higher corrosion rate etc.. They are kind of neat looking, though, and in theory cool faster. You commonly see them on high performance bikes and race cars. This address is several years old, let us know how it comes out. Not much of a savings. Auto Specialty EBR424R, EBR424L 1-800-275-3617 Ask for Matt Weiss $120 ea Dave Swingle 81 VIN 5429 DOA, DMC, DMC(Midwest) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/dmcnews http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications