One thing that most people forget also is that the headliners are 1/8" material as the standard. The replacement most people use is 1/4" This adds to the interference and new weatherstrip can be difficult and grinding definately extends the life of the seals and the headliner on the outer corner. It also looks better Ken ------------------------------------------------------------------------ eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/dmcnews http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications