I guess I should go out a check the actual operation of that idle circuit. I looked at the schematic and saw that it was connected into the RPM relay but it may not control it. I assumed (mistake) that the idle motor circuit should be shut down along with the fuel pump and Lambda if the motor wasn't running. I do not go out to a car and go over the wiring (or anything else) generally when I respond to questions. This is one of the better points of the DML. Even when there is misinformation from any source there is usually someone that can catch it and correct it. I never claimed to be infallable, I only appear to be so. I accept this good-naturedly and will try harder in the future to be more accurate. On another note I respond to questions and offer advice but more feedback into exactly what is found out to be the problem can help me and others fine-tune our advice and point us better in the future. By knowing the frequency of a particular problem and it's nature I can lead the person to the more likely sources first. It is getting rarer and rarer to see unusual problems and they are generally caused by something weird like wiring changes by previous owners and such. These kinds of things are very difficult to help with on this List. It requires some level of electrical knowledge by the person "on the spot". Like a Doctor I have to guess Horses when when you hear hoofbeats but sometimes IS a Zebra. In any case I will continue to give advice, just more carefully. David Teitelbaum vin 10757 --- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe@xxxx> wrote: > > David, > > I agree with your comments concerning "giving advice by remote control". > To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/