I always laugh at those infomercials as well. What's funny is shortly after my father retired back in the mid 90's, he got bored, and somehow found work as an extra in allot of those infomercials. They never claim anyone is an expert, but will always put people into costumes, to try and convince the studio audience that their products are actually used by mechanics, or chefs, etc... The only improvements that I've ever seen to my car have been replacement of worn components, and tweaking of the fuel mix, & ignition timing. Other than that, the only improvement by an aftermarket part has been an MSD coil (engine pulls more @ higher RPMs) & a center force clutch (grabs quicker, and slips less on hills). As for the airbox, removing the warm air mixture unit, and running the hose directly into the pontoon has most certainly given me better throttle response. If my car has had any HP gains, I've not noticed them. But I certainly have noticed the increased throttle response, and how the motor will rev up quicker As for K&N filers, I personally don't use them, nor would I reccomend them. The filers don't really work until their somewhat dirty. You need dirt to cling to the oil-soaked fibres. And then, you have to wait for the oil to wick thru that dirt, so that the oil will grab the next dirt particle. And so this goes on, until the filer is full. In the mean time, any kind of silt, or dust that is able to squeeze between the wide gaps, will get sucked right into the engine. If you're running dragster that is only going to run for a few minutes at a time, then it makes sense to use a K&N filer. Or in some cases, no filter at all. Paper filters have a better advantage. For a long-term vehicle, you might sacrifice a slight bit of throttle response. Or perhaps even 1-2 HP. Which is no sacrifice at all, if you consider you're running stock. For any vehicle, I'd rather have a larger intake, with a filter that has more surface area, than a high-flow, oil filter. Plus I'm lazy. I'd rather throw away an old paper filter, than screw around with cleaning a rechargable one. -Robert vin 6585 "X" --- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, mike.griese@xxxx wrote: > > I am always skeptical of these claims because they are never done > with any kind of rigor. I'm willing to bet that most every DeLorean > can benefit from a tuneup - with OEM parts or aftermarket. Seat > of the pants evaluations are useless. I would be willing to believe > claims if there are documented dyno runs before and after every > change, measured against new parts to the original design spec as a > baseline. Anything else is marketing. > > Ever notice how those stupid tornado intake infomercials ALWAYS > do a tuneup and filter change on the car with the installation of the part? > > -- > Mike To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/