The mid 90's would have been an ideal time for the return of the DMC-12. You had allot more venture capital going around, and investors who were willing to part with it. Especially if it delt with some material items that they would be more than willing to buy. But now, no. Now would be quite possibly one of the worst times ever for a new car company to emerge. We're in the middle of a war, there are bad relations with other countries, and were in an energy crisis. Even if you could get the investors together, the consumers wouldn't be there. Times are tight, and people are going to realy scrutinize where there money is going to go. Not to mention the fact that investment brokerages need to also be sold on the idea, so tht they can convince their investors, and associates that they should turn over the cash to invest in this. Thinking along these lines, next to tooling costs, advertising is going to be the next biggest thing that needs to be invested in. Dunmurry is gone. The car could never be rebuilt there, unless it's sole purpose was manufacturing for the European market. The workforce would be choice IMO. With proper investment, Irish labor could rival German quite easily. And at a cheaper price. But the political hurdles, along with the exchange rate would be detrimental to the company's profit margin. Building a car that lasts too long is bad for long term survival. That is exactly what killed DeSoto. Instilling owner loyalty into children is a great thing, but it's not a viable marketing solution. Although neither is creating cars with preplaned lifespans. Yeah, even JZD himself said that it's wrong to convince someone to dump a perfectly good vehicle that their otherwise happy with, by convicing them that they need to buy something new, just because it's got some new trim peices. But hey, that's what pays the bills. If the DMC-12 were to return as a mass produced vehicle, it will not survive in it's current incarnation. DMC-12 needs to be reduced from an actual model, to a simple platform. Two trim levels that would dictate both transmission, and cloth, or leather interior. That would help to break up the monotiny of having all cars be the exact same, and would further their values. One powerplant only to start, with a 2nd one to be added later on, with more power output. After a 2nd motor arrives on the scene, strip down the luxury items on the lower trim model, to make it more affordable, and to further marketing, by making the car more visable to everyone. And as the car rolled out, you would also sell various accessories, etc. to continue pride in the ownership experience. And that's just the car itself. You'd still have to build the dealership network, AND invest a ton of cash into a financial division for people to take out loans to buy the cars. There is hope. But not now. Unless of course, you were to crank out a hand-built, limited production vehicle. That would be an entirely different ball game then. Not to mention, much more viable... -Robert vin 6585 "X" --- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, M5E <nitrousgarageworks@xxxx> wrote: > > I just think the time is right for a comeback of the > DMC is all. So if the investors won't pony up the > cash, go to the stock market, and make it a public > company. We've seen remakes of all kinds of things, > trying to capture the market that has the cash to > spend; Our generation. The factory is still probably > there in Dublin. I disagree with the idea that there > would be no repeat customers. <SNIP> To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/