In defense of Alex, although it speaks badly of the car, I am not sure you really can "clean" the car up. The outsise yes, but the interior is badly stained. The leather and dash have turned brown from mold, fading and cigarette smoke. The interior absolutely needs to be replaced from top to bottom to make the car worthy of it's name. This is really not all that expensive, we all know that you can get the new seat covers for $600, the whole carpet for both sides is about what, $300 or so? The dash, binnacle and knee pads can be traded in and recovered by Josh for real cheap and the headliners recovered by ANY upholstery shop for not much money. I would say you could re-do the inside this way for like, less than $3000? This would give you an all new inside! As for the engine, sure it runs and drives but it is a little rough. I would yank it and put it one of DMCH's crate engine upgrades. So you would have a clean body car with a new upgraded engine and a new interior for less than $20K and that ain't bad. Most of us have spent at LEAST $20K on our cars, I know I have! (.... and I don't have a new engine!) So it's all how you look at it. - Videobob >From: "Joe OBrien" <joeyoseppijoe@xxxxxxxxx> >Reply-To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >Subject: [DML] Re: Another DMC newbie >Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2004 01:08:31 -0000 > > > > >alex, > >Not trying to butt heads, but I said it wasn't an original engine >because you yourself stated it in a previous advertisement for the >vehicle. Then to list it for sale and not even mention it seems >kinda fishy. Most eBayers have no idea of knowing this until after >they would buy a car, and that is information that looks bad if not >presented up front. Not saying anything is bad about the engine, >just the fact it isn't mentioned causes concern. I saw about 10 >pictures of the engine close-up on your old web page where you were >selling it for 11k because you thought it had an oil leak. So yes, I >have seen the engine close-up. > >And the comment about washing, if someone can't take 2 hours out of >a month to present a vehicle for sale in a semi-clean state, then >how much do they really care for the car? It just makes the ad look >bad, and regardless of your schedule, listing a filthy car makes it >look bad on the seller. > >When you list a vehicle for sale, and put photos of it up, criticism >is just part of the territory. Using the old claim "I', too busy to >wash it" for the pictures is just plain lazy. Unless you work 20 >hours a day 7 days a week, most anyone can squeeze in an hour to >wipe off the crud on the car. > >The list is not badmouthing you directly, just generally on the >person who lists a car in that state, the same as I would anyone >else who lists a car in a similar fashion. everyone gets treated the >same, when they post an ad in a public forum. > >Best of luck selling the car though. It would look better on your >part if you were just upfront with everything in the first place. > > >Good Luck, > >Joe OBrien To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/