I wasn't suggesting doing it at 60mph! No, a simple slow-speed test at less than 30 is good enough. And I strongly disagree that it means they are seriously loose. Half a turn on the nut can mean the difference between nasty, dangerous handling and a positive fun car to drive. I do this for a living now too, and I've driven countrless D's with squirrelly handling. All the ones we've subsequently recommended new TABs have had that problem corrected as a result. I nearly crashed my D just after I got it 3 years ago due to the back end kicking out. All that needed was half a turn on one bolt.. It's worth noting that these bolts don't just "come loose" - they stretch and become loose that way. My car now has Inconel 718 bolts in it, as does a customer's car which I changed one bolt out (had been replaced with an M10 bolt!) but the other was siezed solid. I had to drive it to a local garage with a ramp to enable me to get enough leverage on it to free the bolt up and replace it. Said bolt still had all shims present and appeared tight. This particular car had just received our performance upgrade and the drive to the garage was an experience - losing the back end under power and ending up facing the opposite direction - thankfully only at very slow speeds on a wet road with nobody around. I know my own car well enough to know that it could easily handle what I did. I would go as far as to say that unless they've been checked or replaced, MOST DeLoreans have loose TAB's (in my experience in the UK). Just about every car we've had in since DMUK started up has had new TAB's on the list of work, most often due to the owner being aware of the problems with them, and that's in no small part thanks to Toby and the DML Martin David Teitelbaum wrote: > >Easier and a lot safer to just put the car on a lift and inspect. If >you are driving around and your TAB's are THAT LOOSE then you have >already lost the shims and you are just asking for trouble. > To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/