Marc, If my memory is correct, I believe there is some case law on this issue of copyright expiration. A number of old songs had their copyright expire. Someone then tired to re copyright them and the claim was rejected. For example, someone tried to recopyright "happy birthday" The same case has occurred in the area of car names. For example, the name Avanti is now Avanti II, because the first one has went out of business. I believe there was also a case involving the reproduction of the Porsche 356. The 356 was never copyrighted by Porsche and they let is go out of production. The cases had to do with a reproduction firm in florida. There is also the issue of US copyright verses international copyright. The name "back to the future" was only copyrighted in the US. Therefore, the Back to Future Club was registered in Canada. Attempting to claim US copyright on stuff made outside of the US is not permitted unless it was registered. Isn't there a DMC owner who is a lawyer and can look these cases up on LEXIS? IT sure would put this issue to rest. BOB To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/