Mike about your frame issue. Sounds like I'd go with Josh's 3000 mile frame. That car you saw in Virgina is not worth buying for the frame, I had them send me pictures of the frame itself and it was in bad shape. They raised the car with a fork lift and sent me 20 pictures of it. ROUGH! Secondly, it's funny to see the posting about DMC Joe, I was wondering the same thing just a few weeks ago. He brought 02378 back to life in 1999 and did great work. He is definitely missed, his son helped him with most of the work. He had to be making some serious money working on these things, he was the only one around here that really knew Deloreans. A quick 4-5 hours from Nashville. He worked on two Deloreans for me and again, did great work on both. Sorry he is no longer in the Delorean Community. Kirk 02378 To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/