Re: [DML] Re: Tempremental starting Problem

["Ed Garbade" <edgarbade@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Alistair,
I tried sending this to you directly but it was rejected for some reason.

I have a similar problem.  When the engine and the air temperatures are hot,
I get the typical hot start symptoms.  I know my accumulator works because I
had it at a major vendor's shop and personally saw the fuel system keep
pressure for
over 4 hours.  This means (as I understand it) the accumulator works.

It doesn't even have to be 5 minutes for me.  If I stall the car (I'm use to
automatics but my D is a manual) the symptoms typically appear immediately
on hot days.  On cool days it may or may not surface.

I have found if I hold the gas peddle to the floor under these conditions my
car will start up fine.  Specifically, I attempt to start it normally.  If
it
doesn't start like usual (5 seconds or so) or I get a flooded gas smell, I
turn the ignition off, hold the gas peddle to the floor, turn the key and it
usually starts right up (guess it goes without saying to release the peddle
when it starts).  I may have to crank it a few extra seconds.  I don't pump
the accelerator.  Try this and see if it works for you.

I also recommend you clean the contacts and connectors on the ballast
resistor in the engine compartment.  Not sure that will make a difference
but it did once for me.

I've talked to several major players over the past 2 years with
respect to this and all are scratching their heads.  Replaced fuel
accumulator and fuel distributor with no luck.

So holding the gas peddle to the floor works for me.  That's my story and
I'm sticking to it.

BTW, I feel this is some type of vapor lock.  Not sure if it is but my dad's
old 69 Ford van had similar symptoms (won't start and gas smell) and the
mechanic told us it was vapor lock.  I did have one guy suggest I open the
gas cap and vent the tank.  Tried it once and that did not make a difference
(but I did not actually open the little check plate where the nozzle goes in
so I may not have actually vented the tank).

In any case, I'll be dang if I know why it works but it does for me.  Drop
me a note if this does/doesn't work for you.  Not that I am wishing anything
bad on you but it would be nice to know I am not the only one in this boat.

All my best,
Ed Garbade
10541

----- Original Message ----- 

> So how come when I turn the key without pumping the gas pedal the
> car turns over and over without anything happening and then when i
> do pump it, it starts straight away??
>
> Alistair



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