I am very happy with the L.E.D. set that Video Bob has taken the time to research and put together. Each light is actually a circular cluster of 5 little LED's, and looks awesome- very similar to the shape of the old light bulb. In fact I had replaced them on Saturday morning before the car show. Then I left the doors open during the whole show with the lights on. I showed up at ~8am, and the car was there until about 4pm. The battery gauge never even dropped! Then I popped out one of the lens covers and touched the LED- while still one- after it had been on for 8 hours. It wasn't even hot! BTW, I am the one person that had the defective LED (for some reason only 3 LEDS would light up). Bob was very easy to work with, and replaced the LED right there at the show. Jason -----Original Message----- From: Video Bob [mailto:videobob@xxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2004 1:04 PM To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Cc: yahoo1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [DML] My results with L.E.D.s Thanks for the support. I am proud of my research on these. I have a bucket full of other lights I have bought from every manufacturer looking for the best combination of performance and price. Brighter is not always better. I just tried out some new bulbs that have come to markey that are supposed to be twice as bright as the ones I sell, but cost 33% more each. I tried them out and in my opinion the one's I already sell look better. One day, these lights will be cheaper than anything and will be common, but until then I am proud to be the first one to sell them as a kit. I have sold about 100 sets of these to happy Delorean owners so far, that is 600 bulbs. Out of those 600 only one bulb was defective which I replaced. Pretty good numbers. As far as leaving the doors up, you could leave these lights on for weeks at a time without making a real dent in your battery. A full day or two at a car show is nothing..... A lot of people have asked for LED's for the running lights too, and I have yet to find any that are satisfactory looking. The light needs to be equal or brighter than the original incandescent in order to make it worth doing. Unlike your house, where electricity is billed it makes no difference how much power your running lights use when the car is running. Also, you would not normally have these lights on when the car is on display. The reflective properties of the lenses require light from all sides to light up the whole lens. Just like a flashlight. There are now LED's that have lights pointing forward as well as all around (like a pinecone) that will simulate this. Now, these are still not as good as a real bulb but look pretty good. The downside is that a regular bulb costs about $1 or so and will last for many years. The LED will cost somewhere in the $30-$40 range for the same thing. However, if you did replace all of your running lights with LED's then you could leave your doors up with the running lights on all day with almost no effect. I am working on this, and will let everyone know when I find what I am looking for. - Videobob http://www.dfwdmc.com [very long quote trimmed by moderator] To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/