Tom, here's a link to help state your case to your dad. It's directed to a potetial Pantera owner to their spouse, but you get the idea. http://www.pantera.net/5waystobuy.pdf As for your grandma, why don't you ask her if she's ever owned one? After all, whenever someone tells me that my car is unreliable or a pile of crap, I like to ask if they have had personal experience with one. That usually sends 'em packing. Johnny 5518 > > I have bugged his ear off about the DeLorean now for more than 10 > years, and I recently reached the $15 k mark in my savings. Is there > any thing I can say to my father that would make it easier for him to > accept that I want a 'small sports car' (or even that I own > one..soon). He just doesnt get it through his head that these things > are fun, yeah a little more work than a Honda, and yes, parts may be > a little harder to find, but its all about image. To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/