When you only partially evacuate an A/C system you do not remove all the gases including water "vapor". The only way to do it properly is to pull a "hard" vacuum. The results of not doing it thoughly is that the system pressures will be higher because of the gases you did not remove, you will not get the proper charge of refrigerent in because of the presence of the non-condensable gases in the system, and the worst, the moisture will combine with the refrigerent oil to contaminate it and turn it acidic. This will corrode the insides plugging up the smalll passages, damaging seals and ruining the moving parts of the compressor. If the automakers could get away with the added expense of having to pull a "hard" vacuum don't you think they would? Sometimes you just have to buy the right tools to do some jobs. This is why I recomend that for A/C work (and alignment work) where the "cost of admission", ie the tools, is so high and used so infrequently, that you should just go to a shop and have the work done. Ditto for fixing and balancing tires, and emissions testing. BTW the consequences of not vauuming out a system properly are supposed to be even worse for -134. Years ago there used to be a kit you could buy that allowed you to pump up tires with the motor by removing a spark plug. It isn't sold anymore. It seems it fills the tire with a COMBUSTABLE mixture of air and GASOLINE! Using a heat gun does not do away with the need to pull a hard vacuum, all it does is speed up the process. No one can tell you what and how to work on your cars, I am only pointing out the disadvantages of your method. Someday you may sell one of your cars and the A/C may not be working so well because of this. You could fill the A/C system with Propane and it would cool good too but I don't hear anyone trying that although it is a lot cheaper than R-12! David Teitelbaum vin 10757 --- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "content22207" <brobertson@xxxx> wrote: > > When I vacuum an A/C system, it does not have standing water in it. > Moisture is already vaporized. Remember: I just flushed with outside To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/