Tom thanks for e-mailing me back. I did look under the car last nite and the fans were turning counter-clockwise is that right? Also the connections to the fans were a bit loose i.e one running however they are secure now and both running but I still have 61 F. I did also notice a small piece about 3 in. long missing on top of the radiator shroud (Pax. side fan) but I doubt that it would cause the problem. The fins look fairly clean, later in the week I see I f I can't get more into it. Again thanks for the advice, looks like I've got more issues with the A/C than I thought I don't know? Give a call or vice versa (954) 465-8128, John and yes I'm polish. Looks like am going to need alot of help with this one not an A/C guy! Tom <tomciodmc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: John, Are both of your cooling fans running? Are they turning the correct way? The pressures are a bit high even for FL heat. Also make sure that the shroud for the radiator is good and nothing is blocking the air flow (make sure nothing is stuck in the condenser fins). I converted my D to R134a and the temperature at the vents was 40 to 45 F with around 90F outside - also in Florida. If you need more help you can contact me directly. Good luck! Tom Niemczewski tomcio@xxxxxxxxxxx VIN 6149 Save the dream so you can live the dream... ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Podlewski" > A/C only gets down to 61 F. I am using R134a and have recharged and evac. several times. I even flushed the both hoses and the condenser TWICE installed a new orifice tube TWICE, first one was a little dirty and put on a new accumulator. Short of replacing a perfectly good compressor (good pressures 45 low and 250 high @ idle) and condenser I don't know what to do next. The system is completely clean now but still not cold. the accumulator seems just moist and dripping a little but not cold just cool? > To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/