Re: [DML] Pigeon Forge Show disappointing

[Eric Itzel <eric@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

DeLaurieann,

First of all, I must say I respect your opinion. Now I must say that you are
an outsider because you make yourself one. That is not the fault of anyone
else. There were plenty of people to converse with, plenty of friends that
have yet to cross your path, and plenty of passerby's that would just like a
word with anyone from the DMC crowd.

I too must criticize the sound and the facilities that the show was held in-
but that is not Ken's fault. I live in Pigeon Forge, and I must say that the
quality of such facilities around here are substandard compared to
elsewhere. Hell, I had my senior prom in that same convention hall, and the
quality was just as crappy then, too. It was, however, the only place in the
county that could support the number of DeLorean's required to be under a
roof.

Egomania? So what! I had the pleasure of shaking hands with Stephen Wynne,
Rob Grady, John Hervey, and many others that without them, the DeLorean
would be a giant junk-box. I was nice to meet John DeLorean's daughter.
Claudia Wells was a pleasure to talk with. I enjoyed Bob Gale, but didn't
talk to him personally. If our attention to these people has a potential for
building their personal egos, that's not my problem or concern. I for one
was happy to have them at the show.

Another fun aspect of the DeLorean world is the strange relations between
groups, vendors, and other owners. The DML and DMCForum were both there at
the show. Everybody got along, although I would guess a comical exchange was
in order, granting the differences of the two groups. All of the vendors got
together in the same room- not in all cases, but these guys are in
competition with each other. They got along just fine. Owners and people
from this list and other lists that have disagreements with eachother got
together- no punches were exchanged due to past discussions.

Basically, I'll sum up my opinion like this- you go to a car show to have
fun. However way suits your fancy is fine, but if your not having fun then
it might not be your thing.

I will ask this- Post your name. If you don't post your name, we don't know
who you are. This is the DML, not the USSR. You'll get positive and negative
responses to your opinions, but respect can only be gained for one who gives
the honest truth and a name to go alongside it.

If you go to Chicago, look me up. I'll introduce you to a bunch of friends I
met at PF that I'm sure I'll see again in Chicago.

Eric Itzel
vin 4433
eric@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "dalaurieann" <dalaurieann@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 4:02 PM
Subject: [DML] Pigeon Forge Show disappointing


> I realize that by commenting on the show as I saw it will render
> numerous responses defending the show and messages stating that there
> must be something wrong with me to make these comments but I will say
> them anyway as I feel that it is my moral duty.  The first day was a
> surreal experience seeing all of the D's lined up at one place and
> the 3M discussion (though very long after travelling all day) wasn't
> bad either.  Friday evening (didn't go out to the run in the morning)
> was fantastic.  Everything seemed to be building up to a grand
> climax. That never came.  Saturday was one of the longest days of my
> life.  There was no plan B for anything.  OK so Rob Grady was late
> stuff happens.  But there was no alternative to any of the late
> arrivals or cancellations.  There was no continuity in anything.
> Most of the time when the video monitors where on there was no sound
> so they were basically useless.  The speakers that were there (all of
> them ) seemed ill informed on what there expectations were and they
> relied on their personal speaking talents and to be able to think on
> the fly.  This worked fine for Bob Gale who is so versed in his area
> but it did not work out for the majority of speakers.  Most of us
> were basically stuck there on Saturday as we were not able to take
> our cars out for many hours.  By the time we were able to take them
> out the evening events were about to commence.  The show as a whole
> seemed very "clicky" as many of us felt like outsiders with the
> numerous inside joke references and talking about the same
> individuals over and over.  Saturday evening can best be described as
> egomania run amock.  I realize what it takes and the people necessary
> to run something of such a large proportion but to devote an entire
> evening to this??  That's all it was.  The "click" praising each
> other and patting each other on the back was just too excessive for
> us "outsiders"  I can imagine the response to what I have said so far
> being "I'm sorry you feel this way but everyone that I have talked to
> had a great time"  Consider who you are getting the feedback from.
> Everyone on this list was certainly not the majority at the show.
> Some people may feel that it is a sacrilege to say anything that is
> anti Delorean related and may not be so ready to speak the way they
> really feel.  Take what I say as beneficial to assist in planning the
> next show.  When I heard initially that the next show was to be in
> Chicago I was excited.  After the show was over I doubt at this point
> that I will be going.  The amount of time money and effort put into
> attending the show was NOT worth the return.
> Again I feel that those who contributed should be recognized but
> recognized appropriately.  If you are an organizer and part of those
> who contributed your motivation should not be all of the praise and
> ego boosting it should be the personal gratification of keeping
> continuity to those of us preserving this magnificent piece of
> automotive history.
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