Okay first off, both Haggerty and Condon and Skelly, along with others such as Grundy, and AON Collector Car are specialty companies that insure only special interest vehicle (though they are underwriten by other big-name companies). Very few Collector car (or Agreed Value) policies use ANY rating factors other than the cost to replace the car. Age, Sex, Driving history, and credit have no bearing on these types of policy's pricing... only on whether or not you qualify for the program. The Insurance industry on whole as had a rough decade. During the recent Economic boom of the 90s there were quite a few claims happening, that weren't being rated for initially (they can't change rates mid-term), and the industry was in a soft period in the underwriting cycle. Like the stock market, the insurance industry sees fluctuation in price and risk appetite. Right now, we're in a hard cycle. Underwriters are very strict, and prices very high. Today that is mostly due to the complete lack of stable investment income. If Insurer cannot rely on the investment your premiums normally provide they have to rely on collecting more premium. Honestly, 600-700 buck PER YEAR is a phenomenal rate for a sub-25yr old driver. I might recommend you raise your COLLISION deductible. Comprehensive has very little impact on prices in most cases. Despite what you have personally experienced - insurance companies are not baiting you with low price to raise your rates later on. Nor are they perfunctorily raising rates every year. All but a few states have laws required rate changes to be filed and approved with the state PRIOR to use, some states even have MANDITORY RATES. The Insurance commisioner in any given state approves only state wide changes. Your rate as a 2 yr old customer with an insurance company is the same as any identically classed (age, location, credit, type of car, etcc.) new customer - to rate two identically classed cusotmers differently is Unfair Discrimation... which is illegal in all 50 states. Despite many misconceptions by the public, the insurance industry is not out to get you. The rates they charge are the rates that are actuarily calculated that they NEED to may for thier expences running a business, YOUR claims, and a reasonable profit. For the DeLorean, the best place you can be is any of the afore mentioned collector car companies. I like AON because they have no age requirement- just a driving history requirement and NO mileage limitations. 100/300/100 coverages, in a no-fault state (MI), with 500 ded both comp and coll for a 21 yr old dr, 18 agreed value = $315 / yr INCLUDING the Michigan state insurance fee of $100 For as many misconceptions the public has about the insurance industry - the average insurance agent know NOTHING about the DeLorean. I can't stress enough that you NEED TO READ YOUR POLICY. Stated Amount is NOT Agreed value. If you're with a normal insurance company the payout you'll get on the DeLorean in the event of a total loss IS IN NO WAY GUARENTEED!!! Buy Collector car insurance, it's cheaper and better. Feel free to email me with questions. I'm a huge insurance dork. :P -James LaLonde 004009 To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/