--- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Hank" <henry@xxxx> wrote: <SNIP> > And it's simply not a "black and white" or "purists versus modders" issue - there are many shades of gray in there as well. I'm no "purist", but I am keeping my car stock so it maintains it's value if/when it comes time to sell it. <SNIP> You are dead-on with this statement, Hank. This isn't one camp of people versus another. When it comes to wrenching and modding, there has always been one statement that rings true; "Speed is just a question of money. How fast can you go?" Well, for me it's not question of how fast I want to go, but how far. It doesn't matter why you decided to get a DeLorean. It doesn't even matter why you all choose to keep it. None of that defines whom any of you are, nor justifies why you either modify your car, or why you choose not to. Your actions do not do not need justification to anyone but yourself. Not because the car "needs to have enough power to match it's good looks". YOU want it to go faster. And not modding a car doesn't have to have a damn thing to do with preserving it "for the marquee", or to "retain it's value/desireability when it comes time to sell it." It's simply a case of you no changing anything because you're perfectly happy with the way it is. It's when you lie to yourselves by creating these self justifications that you will begin to become unhappy with your car. If the peppyness of the motor thru those long country drives makes you happy, then don't swap a motor because you feel you have to beat every damn fool you run across at the stoplight. And if ripping out that archaic stereo to get a better driving experience is gonna make things even more fufilling, the to hell with originality! Don't make a decision because you think you're "indebted" to this car. Do whatever you chose to because you feel, you know that it'll make you happier! Me? I bought a DeLorean because I wanted a worry free car. And I got it. I never have to worry about depriciation, I never have to worry about milage, I never have to worry about trading it in, I never have to worry about the painted finish, I never wanted to worry about finding technical support, or parts for this car, and pretty much every other trivial thing that you could imagine. And you know what? I got exactly what I wanted. Except to show off how many miles I've racked up, the odometer might as well not even be there. But the biggest factor was patina. UV damaged leather, and faded vinyl may not look as pretty as their NOS couterparts, but they can certainly feel a whole lot better to the touch. And as beaten down as it looked, as many cobwebs were scattered underneath, and as much tree sap and bird mess was scattered across the top, mine was the "warmest" car that I had ever sat in. And until I experienced this, I never knew the true meaning of the term, "over-restored". A car that has had too many parts replaced, and too much cleaner and preservant is as cold to the touch, as the marble in a mausoleum. And no matter how good it looks to the eye, and no matter how high the value is on paper, if the car doesn't "feel" right to someone, they are not going to buy it. Now as I said before, it's not a question for me of how fast I want to go, but how far. I too have been thinking of an engine swap, with some considerations including long-term reliability, and price. Price of course being judged against DeLorean replacement parts. And, this is out of nesessity, since I may be dealing with a damaged engine in this case. But the thought of replacing a motor because it will become "easier to work on" is honestly absurd. We have motors that are used in Volvo cars, and still, some Volvo dealerships are unable to perform work, and in some cases, refuse to. Why would things magicly be any different with a motor that is now made by a major manufacturer? I will leave everyone considering a engine swap with this thought. Over the years here, the most sucessful engine swaps all have one thing in common. It's not the engine types, it's not the materials used, or anything of that sort. It is the fact that they were completed by the owners themselves. If you yourself cannot take on the task of working on the motor yourself once the swap is complete, then you are comptemplating a useless conversion. And if you cannot do the work yourself, then the process will be a futile one. Finding a mechanic to see such a labor/fabrication intensive job all the way thru is not going to be easy. Any one can quote prices, but they still need to prove their experience to you. -Robert vin 6585 "X" To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! 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