For the door outer seal, only for 108983 I am seeing it reference to a Dodge Caravan or Plymouth Voyager rear hatch both don't specify the year. These I just bought new because my old ones didn't give me problems, they were just old. Why I'm trying to find a cheap cross reference is because I am having quite a hard time fitting the seals on my car for no leaks. Seems that parts rub on the door when closing and wear out, some spots don't even touch the door on the pillar, and the list goes on. So I would hate to spend that kind of money for new vendor seals and weeks later see them wearing already. If I got cheap seals, I could then fix my problems by shaving the fiberglass lip a little, using RTV etc, Prove that they don't leak-and then I would get the good seals from a vendor so they would be exactly for the car and fitted-that was my logic. Cost of the seals is not my issue. You may be wondering why I just don't do this with the seals I have now-they wore at the top of the door, taken off and replaced with the worn areas on on the bottom, sort of rotated my seals to buy some time-I tried to fix it by cutting headliner shorter hoping that was the problem and it's now leaking again. So now they are worn in lots of areas, hopeless of being a good test strip to identify and fix the causes. Thanks for the info though, Dan Benedek #5003 To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/