found my problem !!!!!!!!! the number 2 wire fro plugs was bad (it is new) the fire was jumping through the engine ground, but for the idle when starting : when i start the car on any conditions it will idle at 2000-2500rpm for 10sec and drop to 800rpm, but its always that 10secs just like it was programmed....is it normal? To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/