It is really worse than you think. When you have a "Multiple Point Ground" you have several circuits grounded at the same point. If you now have a "bad" ground connection you have all of the "ground" sides of the circuits together with the possibility of backfeeds from the ground of 1 circuit into another. It can make diagnoses difficult to say the least because you can have all kinds of failure modes. When you have "weird" electrical problems the best advice is to just start with making sure ALL the grounding points are clean and tight. Just good preventitive maintainence. Good engineering practice encourages Multiple Point Grounding" to prevent gound loops but experience teaches that it can fail in unpredicatable ways. On aircraft they use Multiple Point Grounding but they also use redundent grounding meaning that the grounds are also "bonded" together. On automotive applications the theory is that the frame is the "bond" but that doesn't always work especially after 20 years of corrosion, vibration, and evironmental conditions. David Teitelbaum vin 10757 --- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "jchapelhow" <chapelhow@xxxx> wrote: > John. > > Many of my weird and not so wonderful electrical problems were down > to the common ground point behind the middle panel. My problem was > more severe in that often there did not seem to be enough electrical > oomph to drive more than one circuit at a time, ie I could have the > lights on but not indicate at the same time, often the car had to be > deliberatley rev'd just to get the indicators to work. Attempting To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/