To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews ------------------------------------------------------------------------ There are 12 messages in this issue. Topics in this digest: 1. Delorean Cold ..er..."Ocassional" starting - more info From: "pbartusek" <pbmain@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 2. RE: 1983 DMC owners handbook contents From: "John Hervey" <john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 3. Delorean meeting in Germany From: jordan rubin <nuttenschleuder@xxxxxxxxx> 4. California Car Covers From: Samuel <samuel_yahoo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> 5. Re: California Car Covers From: Mark Fearer <mfearer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 6. Re: California Car Covers From: Christian Williams <delorean@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> 7. Re: Headlight Conversion / Automatic Transmissions? From: Soma576@xxxxxxx 8. Re: California Car Covers From: "Harold McElraft" <hmcelraft@xxxxxxx> 9. Re: California Car Covers From: "Bill Lane" <blane@xxxxxxxxxxxx> 10. RE: California Car Covers From: "Scott Mueller" <scott.a.mueller@xxxxxxxxx> 11. RE: Delorean Cold ..er..."Ocassional" starting - more info From: "John Hervey" <john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 12. DeLorean business opportunity From: "darryl" <darryl@xxxxxxxxxxxx> ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 1 Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 15:10:05 -0000 From: "pbartusek" <pbmain@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Delorean Cold ..er..."Ocassional" starting - more info Thanks for the emails, everyone..! Just FYI - I've replaced, within the last year, the fuel pump/pickup/lines, battery, spark plugs, wires, pretty much had the whole engine taken apart to troubleshoot an issue that turned out to be troublesome injectors...so the engine's been pretty well gone through and double checked from a mechanical level. Is there a way to test the RPM Relay? I'll probably take the maintainer off once I get the battery charged up again, and replace it with a remote cutoff switch... Pete ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 2 Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 07:35:19 -0800 From: "John Hervey" <john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: RE: 1983 DMC owners handbook contents Marcel & Michael Maby this link will help you to ID the information in the owners packets. John Hervey http://www.specialtauto.com/delorean-parts/liturature-3.html -----Original Message----- From: Marcel [mailto:mbourgon@xxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 4:55 PM To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [DML] 1983 DMC owners handbook contents Michael; I don't know about the 1983 manual but I would be interested in your 1981 owners manua. Please let me know how much and where I can mail check Marcel in El Paso ----- Original Message ----- From: <MichaelRPack1@xxxxxx> To: <dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 9:02 AM Subject: [DML] 1983 DMC owners handbook contents > > What are the correct contents of the 1983 DMC owners handbook? > Does anyone know where I can purchase one? > > I have a complete original 1981 handbook for sale or trade. > > Sincerely, > Michael > > > To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: > moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx > > For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com > > To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 3 Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 13:57:57 -0800 (PST) From: jordan rubin <nuttenschleuder@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: Delorean meeting in Germany Hello all, Im happy to say that the Delorean meeting in Germany went very well this weekend. We had 6 people and 3 Deloreans parked in front of the house. We worked on the cars till it got dark out (4:30pm) and then had a bar-b-que at my place. We then went to an Irish pub downtown to finish off the night. I gave Elvis my spare valve covers to bead blast, check out the awesome job. http://retroserver.no-ip.com/delorean/Bead_blasting.html thanx jordan 11613 __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 4 Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 18:11:01 -0500 From: Samuel <samuel_yahoo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: California Car Covers I was looking at calcarcover.com, as it was previously mentioned on the list, and noticed they have a 1981 and 1982 for the model. I am guessing the 1981 has a hole for the antenna. I tried to find this out from them but they didnt seem to be sure of this. I am wondering if anyone on the list can shed some light on this possible difference as I cant think of anything else that would be different for the car. Samuel ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 5 Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 18:48:09 -0500 (EST) From: Mark Fearer <mfearer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: California Car Covers Hi. I bought one from California Car Cover for my (previous) 1981, VIN 3072. It did *not* come with a hole for the antenna on the right front fender. I cut one for it. I still have that car cover, but the car has been sold. Anyone want to buy it? Mark Fearer Manchester, New Hampshire On Tue, 18 Nov 2003, Samuel wrote: > I was looking at calcarcover.com, as it was previously mentioned on the > list, and noticed they have a 1981 and 1982 for the model. I am guessing > the 1981 has a hole for the antenna. I tried to find this out from them > but they didnt seem to be sure of this. I am wondering if anyone on the > list can shed some light on this possible difference as I cant think of > anything else that would be different for the car. > > Samuel > > > > To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: > moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx > > For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com > > To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 6 Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 16:02:22 -0800 (PST) From: Christian Williams <delorean@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: California Car Covers A lot of times, sites will just list all model years for a car when there are no differences. I think the same thing happens at tirerack.com when you're looking for tires - you have to specify the year of the DeLorean even though the tire sizes didn't change. Also, I don't think that there was a definate model year split between the antennas. Ask them if they can take one out of the box and look at it, or if you can return it if there's no hole. -Christian On Tue, 18 Nov 2003, Samuel wrote: > I was looking at calcarcover.com, as it was previously mentioned on the > list, and noticed they have a 1981 and 1982 for the model. I am guessing > the 1981 has a hole for the antenna. I tried to find this out from them > but they didnt seem to be sure of this. I am wondering if anyone on the > list can shed some light on this possible difference as I cant think of > anything else that would be different for the car. > > Samuel > > > > To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: > moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx > > For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com > > To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 7 Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 19:32:25 -0500 From: Soma576@xxxxxxx Subject: Re: Headlight Conversion / Automatic Transmissions? In a message dated 11/16/2003 6:19:33 PM Eastern Standard Time, DMCVegas@xxxxxxxx writes: > As fot the tranny fluid, no, it should NEVER smell burned, and it > should ALWAYS be red! DeLorean, Ford, Chevy, Dodge, or any other car, if > the fluid is that color, the transmission is going to be in for some work down > the road, and who knows how soon. Of corse this can also > work in your favor, > at the bargaining table, when haggling over price. Personally, if I were buying a car that wasn't just for getting me thru a winter or something, i would never buy a car with transmission fluid that wasn't reasonably bright pink and didn't smell burnt. little do most people know, but if it is dark and smells burned, too bad, the damage has already been done - you already overheated the transmission (or have other deep problems)!! if it isn't bright pink with a sweet petroleum smell, the clutch packs are already wearing, the oil is losing viscosity, and a number of other inhibitors and modifiers are probably spent or inadequate. at my work, i see many people come in every day with truely burned transmission fluid, but they tell me the transmission shifts ok so it must still be good, right?????? the key here is preventative maintenence. if you are looking at a DeLorean with burned tranny fluid, who knows what other maintenence doesn't get done to it, the owner is probably ignorant or just doesn't care to spend the money to keep it running its very best. pay close attention to the condition of the brake/clutch fluid and the water hoses. these are typically overlooked by half-way-caring owners. be careful changing transmission fluid on a car with burned fluid. sometimes the tranny has been driven for so long with crap fluid in it that the clutch packs get damaged to the point where it actually won't shift w/o that low viscosity burned stuff. when you put good clean fluid in it, it will slip a few weeks later until it won't shift anymore. whoops! maybe you SHOULD have done as the owner's manual recommends!! my shop won't do a flush if it is really bad for this reason. usually then we will only do pan drop services to fix leaks, change the filter, and put a little clean stuff in to get the tranny thru another couple of seasons. there are products out there that will improve the viscosity of tranny fluid to help eliminate slipping, but in my experience, it only lasts about a month before you need to put more in, so it really won't 'fix' it. how about a rebuild instead? buyer beware! Andy ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 8 Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 02:17:28 -0000 From: "Harold McElraft" <hmcelraft@xxxxxxx> Subject: Re: California Car Covers I ordered the CB26SD for the "81" and it did not have a hole for the antenna on the fender. BTW, a great cover and perfect fit. I can't think of any other differences required to fit. Harold McElraft - 3354 --- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Samuel <samuel_yahoo@xxxx> wrote: > I was looking at calcarcover.com, as it was previously mentioned on the > list, and noticed they have a 1981 and 1982 for the model. I am guessing > the 1981 has a hole for the antenna. I tried to find this out from them > but they didnt seem to be sure of this. I am wondering if anyone on the > list can shed some light on this possible difference as I cant think of > anything else that would be different for the car. > > Samuel ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 9 Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 21:45:14 -0500 From: "Bill Lane" <blane@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: California Car Covers Samuel, I have been using a California car cover for years. The cover fits very well but you will have to make a hole for the antenna. The instructions that come with the cover explain the proper way to make the hole if I remember correctly. By the way 1981's had all three variations of antenna location (in the windshield, the right front fender and left rear retractable). This is probably why they did not automatically put a hole in for the antenna. Bill Lane #3635 ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 10 Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 21:08:28 -0600 From: "Scott Mueller" <scott.a.mueller@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: RE: California Car Covers My cover does not have a hole for my left front fender antenna. I unscrew and remove the antenna before using my cover. Scott Mueller 002981 RNDOLA -----Original Message----- From: Samuel [mailto:samuel_yahoo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 5:11 PM To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [DML] California Car Covers I was looking at calcarcover.com, as it was previously mentioned on the list, and noticed they have a 1981 and 1982 for the model. I am guessing the 1981 has a hole for the antenna. I tried to find this out from them but they didnt seem to be sure of this. I am wondering if anyone on the list can shed some light on this possible difference as I cant think of anything else that would be different for the car. Samuel ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 11 Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 19:57:31 -0800 From: "John Hervey" <john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: RE: Delorean Cold ..er..."Ocassional" starting - more info Pete, The contacts in the RPM relay may be burn't and that can be looked at when you take the cover off. But if the car will crank and run the RPM relay is working. John Hervey -----Original Message----- From: pbartusek [mailto:pbmain@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 7:10 AM To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [DML] Delorean Cold ..er..."Ocassional" starting - more info Thanks for the emails, everyone..! Just FYI - I've replaced, within the last year, the fuel pump/pickup/lines, battery, spark plugs, wires, pretty much had the whole engine taken apart to troubleshoot an issue that turned out to be troublesome injectors...so the engine's been pretty well gone through and double checked from a mechanical level. Is there a way to test the RPM Relay? I'll probably take the maintainer off once I get the battery charged up again, and replace it with a remote cutoff switch... Pete To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 12 Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 20:05:36 -0800 From: "darryl" <darryl@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: DeLorean business opportunity If anyone is interested there is an ad posted under "Parts for sale" in the DMCNews.com classifieds for a rare DeLorean business opportunity. Here's your chance to buy one of the largest original parts inventories outside of Houston (for pennies on the dollar), to continue a very successful mail-order business operation or for opening your own repair shop. Check it out. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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