To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews ------------------------------------------------------------------------ There are 8 messages in this issue. Topics in this digest: 1. Re: Leather Interior From: Martin Gutkowski <webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 2. Re: DeLorean Floatation Device From: "therealdmcvegas" <DMCVegas@xxxxxxxx> 3. Re: DeLorean Floatation Device (FloatZilla?) From: "Stragand, Dave" <dave.stragand@xxxxxxxxxxx> 4. Re: Stiffening headboards (was: Leather Interior) From: "Stragand, Dave" <dave.stragand@xxxxxxxxxxx> 5. Re: Clock and A/C light dimming. From: "Harold McElraft" <hmcelraft@xxxxxxx> 6. Re: DeLorean Floatation Device From: "Toby Peterson" <tobyp@xxxxxxxxxxxx> 7. Re: Re: DeLorean Floatation Device (FloatZilla?) From: abatt10347@xxxxxxx 8. Good day to you all.. From: "Gary Weaver II" <gw2tulsa@xxxxxxx> ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 1 Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 11:20:13 +0100 From: Martin Gutkowski <webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Leather Interior Doh! Forgot the link http://www.delorean.co.uk/pictures/DSCN0416.JPG Also, Intrerior Trim will supply a set of skins for you to cover (or get covered) your seats with back home. It's a bit fiddly, but you can do it yourself Martin Martin Gutkowski wrote: >Mine were re-covered by Interior Trim in >Belfast to the original design, but in full leather. Here's a pic > > >Martin > > ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 2 Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 14:35:41 -0000 From: "therealdmcvegas" <DMCVegas@xxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: DeLorean Floatation Device --- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "David Teitelbaum" <jtrealty@xxxx> wrote: > You bring up an interesting problem. If the Delorean floats, how to > get out? I suspect it will quickly start to go down rear end first > because of the motor but you can't climb out a window and as soon as > you open a door (assuming you can against the force of the water) it > will go down like a rock! I guess that you could kick out the front > windscreen or push a fire extinguisher through it and climb out that > way tearing yourself up in the process. <SNIP> > David Teitelbaum > vin 10757 Any car is going to sink like a rock if it takes on enough water. So when a car starts to sink, unbuckle your seatbelt, and roll down the windows and let water in. That allows the pressure inside to balance to the water pressure outside so you can open the doors more easily. Open the door, and then swim out. Just remember that the end of the car with the engine is going to go down first. Which if you were to have this happen in a DeLorean, the gullwing doors won't hinder egress as much as traditional doors would have. -Robert vin 6585 "X" ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 3 Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 09:52:01 -0500 From: "Stragand, Dave" <dave.stragand@xxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: DeLorean Floatation Device (FloatZilla?) Actual accident records show that less than 1 percent of those who die in crashes are trapped in a vehicle that has been submerged in water, rolled over, or caught fire. And that one percent is for all three scenarios combined! Assuming your D did land in the water. What would you do? Because for the heavy weight bias in the rear, the car is going to be "riding high" in the front. All you'd have to do is get out. Now let's assume that you spent several minutes crying that your D was sinking before it occurred to you to try and get out. All you have to do is roll down a window and wait for the water pressure to equalize inside the car and the door will open easily. Contrary to poular belief, the windows will NOT short out. You generally have up to an hour of juice in the battery while it is submerged. The location of our battery is a bonus, as it rarely injured in an accident. You'll have time. Now assuming your door lock module happened to take this very moment to jam. What would you do? Break out the SIDE window with a fire extinguisher, rescue hammer, or by kicking. TRUST ME. There is no way in he** you are going to be able to kick out a windshield like you see on TV or movies. There is a plastic layer sandwiched between two layers of glass, and that plastic is insanely strong. I used to work at an auto body shop, and one of my jobs was removing the broken windshields. It takes multiple blows with a sledgehammer to break through that plastic, and it is even difficult to pierce with a knife. Going out through the windshield simply is not an option in ANY car. The side and rear glass is made from a different material that will break easily into small cubes. Now let's say you roll over, are submerged, and on fire while your original door lock module jams and drains your battery too much to operate the windows. What would you do? Your number is up -- don't struggle. Go towards the light, my child. If you are having that much bad luck you're going to be toast no matter WHAT kind of vehicle you are in. -Dave Stragand VIN #05927 ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 4 Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 09:57:09 -0500 From: "Stragand, Dave" <dave.stragand@xxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Stiffening headboards (was: Leather Interior) I can second that. I have used fiberglass to stiffen all of the headboard material in the Vixen. You can see pics of the results at http://www.projectvixen.com/week137.htm Bear in mind though, this is going to be a bit expensive. It took almost a half gallon of resin to do these pieces, and probably about 3 coats each. That material will wick up the resin very quickly. -Dave http://www.projectvixen.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 5 Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 21:15:33 -0000 From: "Harold McElraft" <hmcelraft@xxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Clock and A/C light dimming. --- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Todd Masinelli <tmasin@xxxx> wrote: > > eliminating the AC bezel light completely during the day. > > The panel now just illuminates when I turn on the lights. > > Another way to achieve this was posted to the list by Jim Reeve a while > back. Just get a 12V/30A 4-spade relay from Radio Shack and put > Wish I had read that post - This is a much cleaner way to achieve the result! Harold McElraft - 3354 ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 6 Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 19:01:44 -0000 From: "Toby Peterson" <tobyp@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: DeLorean Floatation Device Hello List - Not to beat this one into the ground, but I thought I'd share my experience with this topic of handling at higher speeds. As a reference point, you can find in Stainless Steel Illusion a section where they talk about wind tunnel testing of the DeLorean. The finding was that the car needed to be "nose down" a bit, or aerodynamic lift would be a problem. Then, recall the fact that the nose was raised late in the design/production phase for whatever reasons. I found the aero lift at speed to be very annoying, especially on turn number two at Pacific Raceways. Using custom springs and shocks, I lowered the front of Winged1 3.50 inches. Then, we did a little "wind tunnel" testing of our own using a video camera, and water spray from a wet freeway, with the flow backlit using the rising sun at dawn. Based on the footage that we shot of the spray flow around the car, I also incorporated a 1.25" rubber lip below the existing airdam. This addition, together with the lowering, dramatically affected the aerodynamic stability of the car. Winged1 also runs cooler, and the steering effort is very consistent, due to the slight vacuum under the car at speed. Downforce can be our friend. Don't add weight to the front - all you do is increase the polar moment of inertia of the car, resulting in slower turn-in, and dramatic oversteer when you really screw up. Mike's post is very good at laying out the facts. --- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, mike.griese@xxxx wrote: > A contributing factor to the DeLorean's high speed understeer > (and it is there) is the front ride height. The nose up attitude > allows air underneath the car at the front, causing lift, lightening > it even further. > > Tacking on extra weight is not the way to go about tuning a > suspension. > In fact, it's about the worst thing to do because now you have that > much more mass you have to turn. The first step for tuning the > DeLorean is to get the nose down to reduce front end lift. ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 7 Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 18:55:29 EST From: abatt10347@xxxxxxx Subject: Re: Re: DeLorean Floatation Device (FloatZilla?) Dave, Just had to let you know that I am still hurting from laughing so much at your last paragraph in your post of 4/01/03. You missed your calling my friend you should have been a comedy writer! Thanks for the smiles! Bruce Battles Vin 06569 RNDOMTA ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 8 Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2003 04:55:31 -0000 From: "Gary Weaver II" <gw2tulsa@xxxxxxx> Subject: Good day to you all.. I just purchased my own DeLorean and thought I'd join up to the list. My D is an 82 5-Speed with Gray Leather. Overall I love the car and it will work well for my needs.. That being said, I have some issues. Being located in Tulsa, I have no idea if there are any GOOD local mechanics familiar with a DeLorean. I'd also like to see if there are any other DeLorean owners here in the Tulsa area. Oh, one last thing. Anyone have any other leads on seat covers, and just how does one "re-dye" some of the interior components. I've read it once or twice now and have no idea where to start. My Dash and Binnacle could really use a touch up... -Gary Weaver ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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