Before posting messages or replies, see the posting policy rules at: www.dmcnews.com/Admin/rules.html To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderator@xxxxxxxxxxx ------------------------------------------------------------------------ There are 10 messages in this issue. Topics in this digest: 1. Re: Concours discussion From: James Espey <james@xxxxxxxxxx> 2. Re: DMC2.com Taken Offline? From: "Robert Rooney" <dmcvegas@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 3. Re: Cooling fans staying on From: "Robert Rooney" <dmcvegas@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 4. Re: Cooling fans staying on From: dherv10@xxxxxxx 5. re: Window kaput (me too) From: BondAtomic@xxxxxxx 6. Re: Cooling fans staying on From: "Dave Swingle" <dswingle@xxxxxxxxxxxx> 7. Re: Cooling fans staying on From: billschaferabn@xxxxxxx 8. Re:Ownership map From: Kevin & Ann Miller <kamiller@xxxxxxx> 9. Palm Springs Festival of Lights Parade From: "Hank Breer" <hbreer@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> 10. Side mirror questions From: "Walter" <Whalt@xxxxxxx> ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 1 Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 17:12:31 -0500 From: James Espey <james@xxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Concours discussion De Lorean Motor Company sells "refurbished" DeLoreans. A "refurbished" DeLorean is not a concours car, but is outfitted with the parts and upgrades to make it a reliable daily driver. http://www.delorean.com/dmcstore/byod.asp We can and do prepare cars for concours, if requested. James Espey DeLorean Motor Company Houston, Texas 281/568-9573 800/USA-DMC1 http://www.delorean.com >Kind of curious. DMC Houston is selling "new" DeLoreans. How do these >"new" cars rate in a concours competition? > >David Levey >Cleveland >6887 > ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 2 Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2000 23:21:42 -0000 From: "Robert Rooney" <dmcvegas@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: DMC2.com Taken Offline? "dmc2.com" and "deloreanmotorcompany.com" have not been up and running for a while now. It looks like "deloreantime.com" was created to replace "dmc2.com". "deloreantime.com" is loading fine from my side here in Vegas. More then likely it was probably just some network issues w/either your ISP, the company hosting the web site (which by the way is located in Vancouver, B.C.), or something else across the internet. Next time it happens, try running a trace route to see where you get cut off at. If the website is down for more then a month, THEN it's probably been taken down. -Robert vin 6585 ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 3 Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2000 23:31:50 -0000 From: "Robert Rooney" <dmcvegas@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Cooling fans staying on Check the otterstat. 1. Unplug the wires from the otterstat. If the fans turn off, then a bad otterstat is the culprit. 2. Make sure that the otterstat doesn't have a jumper wire inserted in. If so, plug the wires back into the otterstat. BEFORE you take the car back out onto the road, let it idle up to normal operating temp in your driveway. It is possible that the otterstat switch is defective, and a jumper was insterted to force the fans to run constantly. If this is the case and you plug the wires back in, you might be in for a surprise if your car over heats in traffic! If this is the case, replace the otterstat. 3. A jumper wire may have been inserted to force the fans to run constantly in the summertime. I do the same on my car. It's not that any part of the cooling system is defective. It's just that by keeping my engine that much cooler, I can squeeze a little more power out of it. -Robert vin 6585 --- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxx, "Ryan McCaffrey" <ryanjm@xxxx> wrote: > Hello everyone, > > A quick search of the archives yielded plenty of messages about cooling fans > *not* coming on, but mine are staying on. > Ryan McCaffrey > #10014 > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 4 Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 19:25:07 EST From: dherv10@xxxxxxx Subject: Re: Cooling fans staying on Ryan, The first place I would look is at the temp switch in the cooling pipe on the lower left ,looking down into the engine conpartment. Reach down and unplug the wires and see if the fans stop running. If so then the switch may be bad. The fans have to be getting a ground from somewhere. You could also have a stuck relay. Fan Fail or Fan relay, if they are original. If they are then you may want to consider The Fan Fix. www.specialTauto.com John Hervey ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 5 Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 20:51:32 EST From: BondAtomic@xxxxxxx Subject: re: Window kaput (me too) How can I fix the window cable? Do I need to take the door apart? John Feldman VIN 4275 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 6 Date: Sat, 04 Nov 2000 03:23:20 -0000 From: "Dave Swingle" <dswingle@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Cooling fans staying on --- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxx, "Ryan McCaffrey" <ryanjm@xxxx> wrote: > A quick search of the archives yielded plenty of messages about cooling fans > *not* coming on, but mine are staying on. From the moment I start the car > until the moment I turn it off, the fans are constantly on Start with the obvious. Has it always done this (i.e. as long as you have owned the car)? I've seen more than a few of these where people have hard-wired the fans to stay on all the time. Normally this involves jumping the hot-switch (otterstat) but there are many places to do it. For a while it was popular to wire the rear defrost switch to turn the fans on! (I don't need no stinkin' rear defroster!). If it spontaneously occurred, look for a bad otterstat or a stuck fan relay. To check, unplug the 'stat (in the water pipe to the left of the engine). Still on? Unplug the fan relay. The fans are also turned on via the relay thru a diode in parallel with the A/C compressor as it cycles on and off, but that does not sound like your problem. It's not a very complex circuit. I'd vote for the 'stat. Dave Swingle ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 7 Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2000 01:24:40 EST From: billschaferabn@xxxxxxx Subject: Re: Cooling fans staying on Ryan, Replace your cooling fan relay. It's $10.00 well spend and it solvedmy fan problem. Bill ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 8 Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2000 21:41:34 -0900 From: Kevin & Ann Miller <kamiller@xxxxxxx> Subject: Re:Ownership map Kevin, The red one you saw is my car. I bought #4556 about three years ago and it was the only red D in Alaska. I have since taken off the paint and put it back in the stainless, as far as the dealer goes, mine was sold through Harris Ford in the Seattle area. kevin miller Anchorage #4556 From: "Kevin Creason" <k_creason@xxxxxxxxxxx> I spent the last 25 years in Alaska. I know there are a couple. Don't know who, where or what VIN though.... -Kevin #4687 ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 9 Date: Sat, 04 Nov 2000 09:20:01 -0000 From: "Hank Breer" <hbreer@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Palm Springs Festival of Lights Parade List, Just a reminder for anyone who wants a unique experience. The Palm Springs Festival of Lights Parade is Saturday evening, December 2nd. This is an evening (after dark) parade. Every one and every thing in the parade is lit only by white xmas lights. This will be the 5th year that there will be a group of DeLoreans participating. After the parade, we will meet at a restaurant for dinner and socializing. Cost is $15.00 for the parade entry fee. Your car must have at least 400 white xmas lights. For information please contact me (Hank) at hbreer (at) ix.netcom.com or my wife (Mimi) at mbreer (at) ix.netcom.com. We have to get the paperwork and $$ to the parade committee before the 15th of November, so even though the parade is a month away, time is growing short. Hope to see you there. Hank Breer VIN 1141 ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 10 Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2000 20:00:45 -0500 From: "Walter" <Whalt@xxxxxxx> Subject: Side mirror questions I'm getting ready to cut down a piece of convex mirror glass to fit my passenger door. I've got a lot of technical questions for those of you familiar with Delorean anatomy. 1) The parts manual specifies that side mirrors are different starting with VIN 5930. Can anyone tell me what these differences are? There are different part numbers even for replacement glass depending on your VIN. 2) My side mirror glass (on both sides) are held on with black double sided tape. Is this OEM? 3) And if the above is OEM, then is it normal for gravity over a period of 19 years to allow these mirrors to slide down to the point that they are resting on the bottom of the mirror frame where they rub & scrape when adjusting them? 4) Is there any way to pull the mirror glass off of this tape without breaking it so that I can re-position them? 5) Once I get them off, what should I use to glue them back on? 6) Before I go cutting and hacking on a new piece of mirror glass, has anyone already cut a convex mirror glass to fit the Delorean? What I'm preparing to do is start with an aftermarket replacement convex mirror glass made to fit a full size GM truck. I'm going to cut a new Delorean mirror out of the center cropping out that annoying message saying that 'objects in mirror are closer than they appear'. ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________
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