dmcnews-digest Thursday, April 9 1998 Volume 03 : Number 349
In this issue:
Re: DML: expansion bottle installation
DML: RE: Hardcastle and McCormick Delorean
DML: How to State Your VIN
DML: Thomasville Alabama Car Show
DML: re: Starting Problems
DML: Lotus Elite at the DeLorean Factory
DML: RE: Does anyone know?
DML: RE: tinted windows
DML: IRELAND SUBSCRIBERS
DML: D Vandals
Re: DML: re: Starting Problems
DML: re: Vandalism Problems
DML: Auto Gimicks...
Re: DML: Lotus Elite at the DeLorean Factory
DML: Vandalizim and Starting problems.
DML: Help! My wheel just sucked a valve stem!!
Re: DML: Headliners fabric
Re: DML: washer bottle and O2 sensor questions
Re: DML: D Vandals
DML: Re: re: Starting Problems
Re: DML: radios and tinted windows
DML: Re: Hardcastle & McCormick
Re: DML: re: Vandalism Problems
RE: DML: Vandalizim and Starting problems.
DML: RE: radios and tinted windows
Re: DML: Vandalism problems.
DML: Binnacle and kneebar for sale
DML: re: Vandalism Problems
DML: I need a washer...
DML: Auto Gizmo URLs
DML: Latest DMC Parts Reference software uploaded
DML: Warning lights and voice feedback..
Re: DML: radios and tinted windows
Re: DML: radios and tinted windows
DML: RE: Warning lights and voice feedback..
DML: Re: I need a washer...
DML: DMC Houston
Re: DML: need engine parts
DML: re: washer bottle and O2 sensor questions
DML: Trade Drivers Quarter for passenger quarter?
DML: Headers
DML: RE: DMC Houston
Re: DML: headlight problem
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Date: 07 Apr 98 05:55:51 -0500
From: MCCOMBC@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: DML: expansion bottle installation
Lee,
What does the new bottle look like, where did you buy it and how much did
it=
cost? Also, did you shop around at all ? What's out there as a
replacement?
Thanks,
Cliff #11546
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Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 08:55:13 -0400
From: Geoffroy Birtz <gbirtz@xxxxxx>
Subject: DML: RE: Hardcastle and McCormick Delorean
> I found this ad on Classified 2000. Does anyone remember this show?
>
I do. Hardcastle was a retired Judge, McCormick was a ex-con ex-race car
driver released in his custody. the acted as PI. The car was a GT. style
custom job. It looked like it was built from the ground up. I remember
it quite well as I was a regular viewer and thought the car was pretty
cool. I can't conceive that it was built on a D !!! There was nothing D
about it. FYI the guy who played Hardcastle was the guy from Family
affair.
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Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 09:26:30 -0400
From: Mike Substelny <SUBSTEM@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: How to State Your VIN
Vickie asked:
> My car is a 1982 built in Dec.1981, the Serial # is 10,150 do I say
> the car is VIN#0150 or VIN# 10150?
Your VIN is 10150. The first DeLorean to come off the assembly line
was #00500, so anything with an earlier number would have to be a
pre-production car. I believe that 1982 VINs started at 10000, so you
have an early 82.
- - Mike Substelny
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Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 09:23:18 -0500
From: scottmueller@xxxxxxxxx (Scott Mueller)
Subject: DML: Thomasville Alabama Car Show
This Saturday, April 11, 1998 there will be a car show at the
Thomasville High School. Alabama
Registration is $15 and is from 8-12. Judging starts at 12 and prizes
will be awarded at 3.
Thomasville, Alabama is about 100 miles north of Mobile on Highway 43.
At least three of the Alabama owners are scheduled to attend and we are
hoping there will be others.
Come on up and join us, the more the merrier.
If you let me know that you will be there, I will try to reserve enough
spaces for all of us. We plan on being there between 8 and 9 am.
Bring a chair and an umbrella so you can have some shade to sit under.
Scott Mueller
vin 2981
scottmueller@xxxxxxxxx
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Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 09:43:14 -0400
From: Mike Substelny <SUBSTEM@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: re: Starting Problems
Dave Price said:
> So, does anyone have an idea why the start inhibit relay isn't
> connecting? I tried swapping relays with one that works, but that
> didn't help.
The very existence of the "Start Inhibit Relay" annoys me. I can
understand why your automatic needs this relay, but why does my
5-speed have one?
I have the same intermittent starting problem you have, and my mechanic
just put in a *brand* *new* start inhibit relay purchased from one of the
major suppliers. Between your experience and mine I suspect that the
relay itself is not the source of the problem.
Symptoms:
Sometimes my DeLorean engine just won't crank. The fuel pump does
engage briefly, and other electrical systems work properly. I can put my
hand on the SI relay and feel it click (or try to click?) but the engine
still
does not crank. The strange thing is I get it to start by walking away
from the car for a few minutes and trying again. This seems to be
completely random. It doesn't matter if the engine is hot or cold, or if
the
battery has a full charge, or if the weather is rainy or sunny.
This does not happen very often, and it has never left me stranded.
I can always get my DeLorean started by simply waiting a few minutes
and trying again. What does my car do during those few minutes?
I honestly have no idea.
- - Mike Substelny
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Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 16:16:41 -0100
From: "Eamon A.Blaney" <eblaney@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Lotus Elite at the DeLorean Factory
Hello people,
I have just acquired a Lotus Elite 503 Type 75 which, acording to the =
paperwork, used to belong to the DeLorean factory here in Ireland. The
car =
was registered ' VIA 444 ' in 1979 and is silver in colour.
Can anyone shed some light on it's history ? Why did DeLorean need such a
=
car ?
Any help will be appreciated
Thank you in advance
Eamon in Ireland
Elite 503
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Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 9:59:49 -0500
From: Don Gowler-CFPO01 <Don_Gowler-CFPO01@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: RE: Does anyone know?
The exact number escapes me right now but as I recall we had 76
DeLoreans show up in Chicago for a DOA National event back in 86.
Regards, The Silver Fox
>----------
>From: KKoncelik@xxxxxxx%INTERNET
>
>I have been asked by a number of people registering for the Cincinnati Car
>Show if I knew what the record was for the most DeLoreans in one place at
>one
>time. Other than I know there were around 100 for the Universal opening I
>have no idea since I have been an owner for only 2 1/2 years.
>Can anyone out ther help with this one. A few people said the DeLorean
>concourse in Las Vegas but I have heard various numbers on that one.
>James maybe you could help on this one.
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Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 10:05:41 -0500
From: Don Gowler-CFPO01 <Don_Gowler-CFPO01@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: RE: tinted windows
Did it myself back in 83 in Texas (hot summers). A tough job getting a
good fit around the toll booth window frame but very happy with the end
results. Also did the rear side windows for effect.
Regards, The Silver fox
>----------
>From: gbirtz@xxxxxx%INTERNET
>I'm also thinking of getting the side windows tinted with #35 film. Not
>only do I think that black windows will look good with the ss, but this
>may help in reducing the inside temp on those sunny days. Anybody ever
>done this ?
>
>
>
>
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Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 10:26:42 -0500
From: Don Gowler-CFPO01 <Don_Gowler-CFPO01@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: IRELAND SUBSCRIBERS
Anyone from Ireland out there on this mailing list? Please respond to:
cfpo01@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Thanks, The Silver Fox
Don Gowler
DeLorean Midwest Connection
Chicago
Don_Gowler-CFPO01@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 10:26:36 -0700
From: luuke@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: DML: D Vandals
Well Patrick, I've had my Delorean here in Phoenix for over 8 months now
and have never had a case of vandalism. (knock on wood). I've parked in
some not-so-nice areas too. Maybe I'm just lucky, but everyone I've met
when entering or exiting my car has been very giddy, and never sneering.
-Ace Underhill-
luuke@xxxxxxxxxxxx
VIN 2860
AZ Lic. 8T8 MPH
>Is this something that happens often to you lucky people who own
>DeLoreans?
>I'm planning on getting one in a few years, and I would just like to know
>ahead of time if I need to set myself up to expect the worst every timeI
>park it somewhere public...
>
>Thanks for the info...
>
>LZeitgeist@xxxxxxx -- Patrick W. Heinske
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Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 09:48:00 -0700
From: Dave Price <davep@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: re: Starting Problems
>The very existence of the "Start Inhibit Relay" annoys me. I can
>understand why your automatic needs this relay, but why does my
>5-speed have one?
>
>I have the same intermittent starting problem you have, and my mechanic
>just put in a *brand* *new* start inhibit relay purchased from one of the
>major suppliers. Between your experience and mine I suspect that the
>relay itself is not the source of the problem.
>
Well, I (kinda) fixed the problem. There are a couple things you may
want
to try next time it won't crank.
First off, what should work is to pull the start inhibit relay off, put
the
key in the "run" position, and jump the top and bottom contacts of the
start inhibit relay socket. This should engage the starter solenoid and
thus, start the car. What I had to do to make mine start with the key was
to run a wire from the left contact on the starter inhibit relay socket to
a ground (thus eliminating my neutral safety switch).. I used the left pin
on the A/C illumination relay socket since I pulled that relay out and
replaced it with a resistor. Works every time now. Since you're on a
standard tranny, your left contact should already be grounded, but it
could
be a poor connection or something. Otherwise it's the ignition switch not
giving enough juice to the relay to cause it to energize. Have you tried
a
multimeter on the right and left contacts?
Take care!
Dave
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Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 13:41:49 -0400
From: Mike Substelny <SUBSTEM@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: re: Vandalism Problems
Patrick W. Heinske asked (about vandalism problems):
> Is this something that happens often to you lucky people who
> own DeLoreans?
I don't think this is particular to DeLoreans. Corvettes and Porsches get
vandalized, too.
The stainless on a DeLorean is more vandal resistant than most car
bodies because it doesn't have paint. A minor scratch can be rubbed out
and look good as new for no cost. If someone sprays paint on your
stainless you can often clean it off without hurting the finish. Any
vandalism bad enough to hurt a DeLorean would be even worse on an
ordinary car.
- - Mike Substelny
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Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 10:36:28 -0700
From: Dave Price <davep@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Auto Gimicks...
I thought I'd post a couple of cool little car things that I found...
1) Vehicle / Radio theft deterrent: When engaged (I'm assuming from a
standard car alarm) this device will constantly emit a cloud of dense
smoke, thus making it impossible for the villian to see what he is doing,
and impossible to drive the car away.
2) The ultimate in convenience: If you have an electric garage door
opener, this device hooks up to your high-beams, so you flash your lights
to open/close/stop the garage door. (I saw this sweet baby, and I rigged
up my own. I just took my garage door opener and taped the button to be
pressed all the time. I then removed the 9V battery, got a 12V-to-9V
converter from Radio Shack, attatched the output to the opener, and the
input to the high-beam relay, and there you go. When I flash the lights,
it
gives power to the opener (which is pressed) and it operates the door. I
just stuffed everything in the relay compartment. )
3) No more rust: This one is pretty cool.. It's an electronic device
that
you attatch to steel, and because of the signals it sends, it stops rust.
The application that it is made for is autobody rust, but I don't see why
this wouldn't work for frame rust.
4) Keep tabs on your auto: This one isn't too unique but I felt it should
get honorable mention: Car alarm w/ 2 mile pager. I found a couple of
brands that offer this device. To me, what good is a car alarm unless it
has a pager. There are also a celular/pager system for cars. This device
calls your pager from a celular phone in your car when the alarm is
triggered. It says it takes about 60 seconds to reach you, which, in my
opinion, takes too long.
5) Rear deck lighting: Like most of you, I'm sure one or both of your map
lights are toast. My front light is history, but fortunately my rear
light
worked fine, so I removed it and used it in the front. However, this left
me without a light in the rear. Well, I haven't done it yet, but Circuit
City sells these little 12" "sticks" of colored neon tubes. There are
many
little "ports" on the underside of the trim where the rear map light is
(and where light could shine out). You may want to put a couple of those
tube inside the trim for a cool interior light. Since neon is such
low-power, and the colored light would illuminate without being "too
bright" you could probably have them on all night.
If anyone is interested, I can get the websites that I saw this stuff at..
I have most of them bookmarked at home...
Dave
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Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 19:31:56 +0100
From: The DMC-12 <msg101@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: Lotus Elite at the DeLorean Factory
Remember, Lotus had a lot to do with the design/construction of the
DeLorean.
The epoxy-coated frame is an example of Lotus engineering. Colin Chapman
and
JZD were colleagues for many years. The D is in many ways identical to the
Lotus Esprit, weighing almost exactly the same.
Martin
Eamon A.Blaney wrote:
> Hello people,
> I have just acquired a Lotus Elite 503 Type 75 which, acording to the =
> paperwork, used to belong to the DeLorean factory here in Ireland. The
> car =
> was registered ' VIA 444 ' in 1979 and is silver in colour.
> Can anyone shed some light on it's history ? Why did DeLorean need such a
> =
> car ?
>
> Any help will be appreciated
>
> Thank you in advance
>
> Eamon in Ireland
>
> Elite 503
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Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 14:44:27 -0400
From: Mike Griese <magriese@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Vandalizim and Starting problems.
Sounds like you may need a new ignition switch. Use a voltmeter
determine if the start relay is getting any voltage when you turn the key.
If it doesn't, suspect the ignition switch.
Michael A. Griese
IBM Storage Systems Division
Rochester, MN 55901
Internet: magriese@xxxxxxxxxx
voice: (507)253-1853
fax: (507)253-2880
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Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 14:44:38 -0400
From: Mike Griese <magriese@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Help! My wheel just sucked a valve stem!!
If you have original tires, you probably just need a new
valve stem. After all, it would be at least 15 years old by
now.
Michael A. Griese
IBM Storage Systems Division
Rochester, MN 55901
Internet: magriese@xxxxxxxxxx
voice: (507)253-1853
fax: (507)253-2880
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Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 14:44:40 -0400
From: Mike Griese <magriese@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: Headliners fabric
DeLorean One advertises original headliner material.
Michael A. Griese
IBM Storage Systems Division
Rochester, MN 55901
Internet: magriese@xxxxxxxxxx
voice: (507)253-1853
fax: (507)253-2880
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Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 14:48:56 -0500
From: Jordan Gary <jordang@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: washer bottle and O2 sensor questions
James, I guess that you have tried to soak a good pentrating oil into the
threads. Try one of the newer brands which have chemicals which do more
on
the rust than just provide very thin oil. Also be sure that you are
turning
it correctly. I guess that you would be pulling the wrench towards the
from
of the car (when the wrench in from below).
James Senft wrote:
> Tried to replace the leaking windshield washer bottle. Removed all
> screws which hide bottle. Removed old bottle. Confirmed new was
> exactle same size. Installed new bottle. Tried to put lower cover back
> on...all screw holes at least 1/2 " off of where they should be.
> Forcing the bottle appears to be reason original was cracked. It looks
> like something inside the fender needs to be modified. Anyone
> successfully done this?
>
> Second...tried to replace O2 sensor. Got wrench on it from below. Gave
> it my 220 pounds of pull. Can not budge the thing. What is the best
> was to remove the old O2 sensor???
>
> Thanks for assistance. Jim in Maryland
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Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 14:46:57 -0500
From: bttfdmc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: DML: D Vandals
This is one of the reasons why I don't drive my DeLorean too much.
Where I come from, people get very jealous very quickly. If you got
something nice or out of the ordinary, consider it vanalised.
Best advice I can give: take care of your D, install an alarm system
or cut-off switch. Keep your doors locked. And if you're really
paranoid, like myself, also put The Club on your steering wheel.
You can have never to much protection. As far as the outside goes,
where people can get at it? Well, just don't leave out where you
can't see it.
At 10:26 AM 4/7/98 -0700, you wrote:
>Well Patrick, I've had my Delorean here in Phoenix for over 8 months now
>and have never had a case of vandalism. (knock on wood). I've parked in
>some not-so-nice areas too. Maybe I'm just lucky, but everyone I've met
>when entering or exiting my car has been very giddy, and never sneering.
>
> -Ace Underhill-
> luuke@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> VIN 2860
> AZ Lic. 8T8 MPH
>
>>Is this something that happens often to you lucky people who own
>>DeLoreans?
>>I'm planning on getting one in a few years, and I would just like to know
>>ahead of time if I need to set myself up to expect the worst every timeI
>>park it somewhere public...
>>
>>Thanks for the info...
>>
>>LZeitgeist@xxxxxxx -- Patrick W. Heinske
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Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 17:17:06 -0500
From: "BRUCE BENSON" <delornut@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Re: re: Starting Problems
> From: Mike Substelny <SUBSTEM@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> The very existence of the "Start Inhibit Relay" annoys me. I can
> understand why your automatic needs this relay, but why does my
> 5-speed have one?
By routing the current through the relay contacts the reqirements of the
starter solenoid windings won't cause arching of the ignition switch
contacts. If relays weren't used on many of the curcuits the sevice life
of
many switch contacts would be greatly reduced. If there's doubt about the
contacts in the ignition switch, I'd think you could just insert a 12 volt
test light between the ignition switch terminal in the start inhibit relay
plug and ground. When the ignition switch is turned to the start position,
the light should come on. The starter curcuit is grounded through the
transmission harness and it was stated that the harness was changed. It
might be worth double checking everything to assure there's a proper
ground.
Bruce Benson
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Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 20:41:55 -0600 (MDT)
From: raddad@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: DML: radios and tinted windows
Re tinted windows:
I tinted the windows on my '81 and felt that the tinting did so much to
keep the interior temp down that when I traded it on my '83 the first
thing
I did was tint the windows. Can't tell you the "filtering number" used,
but I did what is called a "legal tint" here in Colorado. It is not
excessively dark, but it does a great job and I personally think that it
looks very good. My wife is my constant passesnger and she says that the
difference is very noticeable.
Dick Ryan
The Rad Dad
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Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 21:31:04 -0700
From: Matt Peak <mpeak@xxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Re: Hardcastle & McCormick
The car used on the show was a kit car mock-up of a McLaren with a Chevy
350 V8. I forget the car's name, but it is not a Delorean. He must be
confused because of the gull wing doors. I regularly see these car
advertised in auto trader for about $5K-$10K.
>I found this ad on Classified 2000. Does anyone remember this show?
>
>
> Auto 1981, Delorean "Coyote", 11K miles, $60,000
>/OBO
>
(SNIP)
>
>Scott Tester testersd@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 20:49:59 -0600 (MDT)
From: raddad@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: DML: re: Vandalism Problems
Further re vandalism: While on a trip to Chicago I stopped overnight in
Lincoln Nebraska. Parked in hotel parking lot (was assured it was
patrolled). Next morning my D was one of two cars broken into. Thieves
were looking only for CD players and CDs. Tore the shit out of my dash
getting the Alpine unit out, but left the amp, the graphic equalizer and
even my camera which had inadvertantly been left in the car. Go figure!!
Dick Ryan
The Rad Dad
P.S. In Lincoln Nebraska?????
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Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 19:11:49 -0800
From: "tomcio" <tomcio@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: DML: Vandalizim and Starting problems.
Hi,
I don't think that a volt meter will help. Without any load the
voltage might be fine, but once there is load the voltage can even
drop to nothing. You can check the voltage with the relay connected
but that will not be easy. If the voltage drops below about 9 V under
load (with relay connected) the problem is somewhere between the
ignition switch and the relay. You can try measuring the voltage at
the ignition switch itself. Before the switch and after. That way you
can pin point the location of the fault. Good luck
Tom
vin 6298
Mike Griese <magriese@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote on Tuesday April 7, 1998 at
4:02pm:
>Sounds like you may need a new ignition switch. Use a voltmeter
>determine if the start relay is getting any voltage when you turn
>the key. If it doesn't, suspect the ignition switch.
>
>Michael A. Griese
>IBM Storage Systems Division
>Rochester, MN 55901
>Internet: magriese@xxxxxxxxxx
>voice: (507)253-1853
>fax: (507)253-2880
>
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Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 22:02:54 -0500
From: Duke <at88mph@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: RE: radios and tinted windows
Dave,
Adding tint to the windows does help keep it a little cooler and adds A =
LOT to the looks of the car. My windows were tinted but since I live in =
Mobile, Alabama I had to remove it because it was illegal. I never got =
a ticket because I took it off before the law went into effect (the day =
before actually) but I'm considering having it done again since they =
don't seem to be enforcing it too much. The only problem is, as I'm =
sure everyone knows, cops seem to follow our cars REAL closely and look =
for something to pull us over for. =20
Later,
Duke
www.geocities.com/MotorCity/8952/delorean.html
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Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 08:23:51 -0400
From: Marc A Levy <malevy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: Vandalism problems.
I have never had any "Vandalism" yet, but the first week I had my car, I
parked in a 1 hour parking spot, and one the the rent a cop morons
"marked" my bumper with one of those white wax pens meant for marking
tires. I have found nothing that will remove the white mark from the
bumper, and it remains after 4 years. All because the guard was too fat
or lazy to bend down and mark the tire!
LZeitgeist wrote:
>
> Is this something that happens often to you lucky people who own
> DeLoreans?
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Date: Wed, 8 Apr 98 07:32:54 -0700
From: James Espey <espey@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Binnacle and kneebar for sale
I have an extra binnacle (part #110436) and passenger side kneebar (part
# 110458) to sell, both are grey and like new. They came with the car
that I just bought and I have no need to keep them.
A quick check of the DeLorean Motor Company website (www.usadmc.com)
shows these parts sell for $338.21 for the binnacle and $175.42 for the
kneebar. I will take $290 for the binnacle and $140 for the kneebar.
These prices include shipping in the US, outside US I'll add the shipping
costs.
Email me if interested.
James
espey@xxxxxxxxxxx
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Date: Wed, 8 Apr 98 10:33:19 -0400
From: "Rob Corkum" <rob.corkum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: re: Vandalism Problems
Either I've been lucky, or there is some merit to living in a large city
with lots of other nice cars around. The worst I've have happen is some
light claw marks from a cat jumping on the roof... <a knocking on wood
sound can be heard in the distance>
> Further re vandalism: While on a trip to Chicago I stopped overnight in
> Lincoln Nebraska. Parked in hotel parking lot (was assured it was
> patrolled). Next morning my D was one of two cars broken into. Thieves
This brings to mind our upcoming Cincinnati trip in June where we'll be
staying at the recommended hotel along with all the others. Has
something
been arranged with the hotel about patrols the two nights? (Ken?) I hear
that there is safety in numbers, but I don't think it might apply in this
case.
//Rob//
rob.corkum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Toronto, ON
VIN#1723 - DOA DMCC
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Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 12:56:52 EDT
From: NJP548 <NJP548@xxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: I need a washer...
When my brother took my fuel distributor apart and he blew air thru the
nozzles in there he seemed to have lost one of those little washers that
sits
under the spring. I was wondering if anyone on the list has a fuel
distributo
apart that they don't need so I can get that little washer for it, because
this stupid little thing is not giving that injector fuel, so it must be
important.
Later,
Nick
VIN#1852
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Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 11:21:38 -0700
From: Dave Price <davep@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Auto Gizmo URLs
A few folks have been asking for the URLs to some of the auto-gizmos I
found..
Modular car alarm with lots of
accessories (including the 2 mile pager):
http://www.brikcaralarms.com
High-Beam garage Door opener:
http://smarthome.com/nt/7458A.html
Electronic rust proofing:
http://www.houstonet.com/quorum/products/vehsec.html
http://almexltd.com/harrison/rusterm.htm
Can't vouch for any of this stuff, but most of it looks
pretty cool, and it's on my wish-list. I'll keep poking
around for the smoke emitter accessory, I was pretty
deep into a search when I found it, and I didn't bookmark it..
Cheers!
Dave
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Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 10:49:00 -0700
From: "Grimsrud, Knut S" <knut.s.grimsrud@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Latest DMC Parts Reference software uploaded
I uploaded the latest version of the DMC parts reference software.
This version includes some enhanced browsing capability by displaying
the organization of the parts manual in a tree-view window. This
version includes no new data, but I'm working on including a couple
more plug-in cross reference modules for the next release.
If you already have a previous version of the software, you can
upgrade to the latest version by downloading the update disk. The
software is available at www.dmcnews.com/faq/n_soft.htm
Knut Grimsrud
DeLorean Club of Oregon
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Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 11:31:59 -0700
From: Dave Price <davep@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Warning lights and voice feedback..
Does anyone know of a voice feedback module that monitors your warning
lights and gives you a pre-recorded message? (i.e. "Your door is ajar" )
It's kinda dorkey, but I've always wanted my car to say that. I was
thinking about buying one of those little voice record/playback modules at
Radio Shack, and hooking it up to play when the warning light comes on,
seems like there would be a better way though...
Thanks!
Dave
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Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 15:34:18 EDT
From: Kayo Ong <KayoOng@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: radios and tinted windows
I have replaced my original factory radio with a Blaupaukt radio,
additional 4
channel amplifier and a 10 CD changer. Rear side speakers are left for
they
are decent and hard to get to. The front was replaced with a 4" Polk
Audio
speaker, augmented with a 6" Blaupaukt speaker and custom housing
contructed
from scatch and fitted into the side kick space. The rear panel wall
under
the rear window has a pair of 4" X 10" Pioneer speakers fitted at close
to the
end of the panel. This speaker was pick for choice for installation
then by
sound as second This is a far cry from the original sound system. This
system is good
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Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 17:15:10 EDT
From: Kayo Ong <KayoOng@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: radios and tinted windows
Sorry, I did not finish writing the e-mail and accidently sent it out, by
hitting the button.
Please add this to the first part wriiten earlier.
I think, I left off, where there was a pair of 4" X 10" Pioneer speakers
fitted and mounted at the rear wall. All the speakers wiring are Monster
Cables. Interconnects cables between head unit, the the amps and CD unit
are
special silver cables, from HI-END audio just for the sound quality
(cables do
not all sound the same, just as different gasoline or oils).
The sound in my vehicle is extremely good, not great, because of the
vehicle's
chambers. Sound has a lot to do with the vehicle's enclosure and
matching of
componets. The sound DOES NOT SOUND BOOMY, ELECTRONIC, SIZZILING, THICK
or
THIN, just right. It could use l little more deeper bass, this is the
lack of
avalibilty of "chamber space" in the vehicle. More chamber space produce
a
smoother bass, and the Delorean just don't have it. All bass speakers
needs
spaces to produce "smoother thumpless bass". Too much room space and it
is
"running mud sound". Absence of space here. Midrange and highs are
okay to
excellent on all the array of speakers installed. There is eight speakers
total, to surrounding the passenger and the driver. Remember, sound is
very
subjective. The best way you know you got it right, when the sound will
not
become fatiguing or hurting to your ears and senses, especially on long
drives. The other way you know you got it right if you are a musicain
and/or
work in the entertainment or sound business to gauge this subject. After
all,
it is what can you live with as sound quality and money you can afford to
it.
All sound system must try to "produce a life like image", not just
mediocer
sound or noise. Leave the original equipment, if it is okay, if not,
change
it for better sound quality. This combination will produce quality
sound.
Many units were installed and removed for final decision. Selected and
not
settled. If it did not sound right, then pull it out. I my self listen
to a
large variety of music, from classical to rock. This system does it all
with
"correctness" as in my audio system in my home, extreme super high end
with no
money as no object. Again, as for the vehicle on the road, I do long
drives,
better then 4 to 10 hours at a times. A bad sound system can make you very
irritable and tired.
All Blaupaukt Head (radio, cassette, CD, etc.) units in my opinion are in
visual harmony with the rest of the panel and the car's interior. It fits
very well in style, color and as an overall a unit. The unit looks
"correct",
turned on or off. Some other manufactures looks obtrusive, or too over
designed and does not sound well all around through the audio spectrum.
On another subject matter, tinting. In New York City heavy tinting is
not
allowed in the front driver and passenger windows, only the rear windows.
Fines and removal of tint are imposed and mandated. Light approved
tinting is
permited.
I have applied a 3 1/2" visor designed tint going from the front to back
on
the top of my two door's windows. They are silver in color. They are
reflective as well as see through. They keep the sun off your head. They
blend in and looks "correct" on the exterior of the vechicle. The tint
does
not cover the entire window and does not violate the NYC dark tint
regulations. It works very well in the summer days.
If you do it yourself, just remove all the front, rear trim and the over
head
panel. Clean window and apply tint. The tint required is 4 1/4" X 36".
Affix and align tint carefully trim and squeege. Remount all trims and
ovehead panel.
Cost is less then $5.00 for tint and if your handy about 1 1/2 hours work.
Kayo Ong
#05508
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Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 17:55:35 -0500
From: Duke <at88mph@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: RE: Warning lights and voice feedback..
Dave,
I had a '81 Nissan (Datsun) 280ZX that talked. ('Your door is ajar',' =
lights are on', ect.) These cars are common in junkyards and you should =
be able to get the voice box and accessories fairly cheap. =20
Hope this helps,
Duke
www.geocities.com/MotorCity/8952/delorean.html
- -----Original Message-----
From: Dave Price [SMTP:davep@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 1998 1:32 PM
To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: DML: Warning lights and voice feedback..
>Does anyone know of a voice feedback module that monitors your warning
>lights and gives you a pre-recorded message? (i.e. "Your door is ajar")
>
>It's kinda dorkey, but I've always wanted my car to say that. I was
>thinking about buying one of those little voice record/playback modules =
>at
>Radio Shack, and hooking it up to play when the warning light comes on,
>seems like there would be a better way though...
>
>Thanks!
>Dave
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Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 19:30:09 -0500
From: "BRUCE BENSON" <delornut@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Re: I need a washer...
- ----------
> From: NJP548 <NJP548@xxxxxxx>
> To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: DML: I need a washer...
> Date: Wednesday, April 08, 1998 11:56 AM
>
> When my brother took my fuel distributor apart and he blew air thru the
> nozzles in there he seemed to have lost one of those little washers that
> sits
> under the spring. I was wondering if anyone on the list has a fuel
> distributo
> apart that they don't need so I can get that little washer for it,because
> this stupid little thing is not giving that injector fuel, so it must be
> important.
>
> Later,
> Nick
> VIN#1852
If it was one of the shims used in the control pressure regulator, each
car
is a bit different as they are used to set the control pressure. Adding or
subtracting shims increases or decreases the amount of fuel pressure it
takes to open the valve and allow excess fuel to return to the tank.
Without proper gauges
it's only going to be a guess as to how much shims you need. I wouldn't
think it would be too costly to run it through a shop familiar with Bosch
K-Jetronic fuel injection. One shim, more or less, shouldn't make a big
enough difference that the car wouldn't run. There is also an o-ring on
the
control pressure valve stem. You could check that that is still there.
Beyond that the fuel distributor shouldn't have been disassembled. The
manuals all state disassembling it will ruin it.
Bruce Benson
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Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 22:28:25 -0700
From: Daniel McGauley <hawkeye@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: DMC Houston
I just got my DMC-12 back from DMC Houston (I drove it to Chicago) after
getting over $8000 worth of work done on it. Stephen and Warren were both
very professional, fast, friendly and overall relatively inexpensive. I
just wanted to give my kudos to them and their service. The car
successfully made the 1200 mile trip without a problem.
- -Daniel McGauley (#2903)
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Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 13:08:10 EDT
From: TAHOERAY <TAHOERAY@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: need engine parts
I also had an engine fire, and and had to replace almost every thing in
the
engine compartment including the fuel dist. I found that some of the DMC
parts
dealers sell a rebuilt one for aprox $500.00. I called a wrecking yard
that
had Volvo parts and purchased a used one from a Volvo the part # is
different
but it appears to be identical. It has worked just fine and after over
3000
miles, no problem. I paid about
$ 90.00 for it.
Good Luck
Ray Petragallo
VIN
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Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 23:00:26 -0500
From: dswingle@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: DML: re: washer bottle and O2 sensor questions
Jim in Maryland wrote:
>From: James Senft <jpsenft@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: DML: washer bottle and O2 sensor questions
>
> Tried to replace the leaking windshield washer bottle. Removed all
> screws which hide bottle. Removed old bottle. Confirmed new was
> exactle same size. Installed new bottle. Tried to put lower cover back
> on...all screw holes at least 1/2 " off of where they should be.
> Forcing the bottle appears to be reason original was cracked. It looks
> like something inside the fender needs to be modified. Anyone
> successfully done this?
I just had mine apart and can see how that could happen. At best it's a
very snug fit. I'd suspect that you'll need to grind the hole larger
where the bottle goes thru the body, OR install all new rivnuts in the
correct location. Remember, this was something of a "whittle-to-fit"
car, so odds are good that it was misfit at the factory. By the way -
did you end up with an extra cap for the washer bottle? Mine's broken
and I haven't been able to find a replacement. Email me privately.
> Second...tried to replace O2 sensor. Got wrench on it from below. Gave
> it my 220 pounds of pull. Can not budge the thing. What is the best
> was to remove the old O2 sensor???
I did mine - I don't recall exactly how but I'm not above "nudging" a
wrench with a large hammer in this kind of circumstance. Sometimes the
impact is necessary to break it loose.
Dave Swingle
dswingle@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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Date: Thu, 9 Apr 98 09:17:30 -0700
From: James Espey <espey@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Trade Drivers Quarter for passenger quarter?
I have a drivers side quarter panel without glass, molding or side marker
light (in other words, as sold as a replacement, this is a new part) that
I
would like to trade for a passenger side quarter panel. Anyone, anyone?
James
espey@xxxxxxxxxxx
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Date: Thu, 9 Apr 98 11:10:50 -0700
From: James Espey <espey@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Headers
Anyone have any "real world" experience with headers on their DeLorean?
Rob Grady has a set on his green car, but in Columbus last fall he said
that he was not selling them. I read in a DeLorean CLub UK newsletter
that they were available, but have since misplaced the name/address of
the source. Any help appreciated...
James
espey@xxxxxxxxxxx
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Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 14:12:36 -0400
From: Geoffroy Birtz <gbirtz@xxxxxx>
Subject: DML: RE: DMC Houston
> ----------
> From: Daniel McGauley[SMTP:hawkeye@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>
[SNIP] ... after getting over $8000 worth of work done on it.
...[SNIP] ... and overall relatively inexpensive.
Geez Dan, what would you consider expensive !!!!!!!!
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Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 00:40:37 -0700
From: "lseiler@xxxxxxxxxxxx" <lseiler@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: headlight problem
At 03:13 PM 4/3/98 EST, you wrote:
>my car has developed a very strange headlight problem:
>
>set to low beams, only the driver's side low comes on and it is weak
>set to high beams the driver's side low goes off and the other three come
>on
>
>I tried swithching the two light relays near the fuse box ... no luck?
>any ideas?
>
>jim albin is jalbin@xxxxxxx
>
>
>
>
reply:
Speaking of head lights, does any one know where the beam alignment
spects
are? In the DW mag?, DMC Manual?
Lee
BTW: If you have three quarters, four dimes, and four pennies, you have
$1.19. You also have the largest amount of money in coins without being
able to make change for a dollar.
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