dmcnews-digest Saturday, August 1 1998 Volume 03 : Number 394
In this issue:
DML: Re: Re: Stainless Steel Louvers
Re: DML: Cooling Fans
Re: DML: dmc...clock
DML: RE: Cooling Fans
DML: stainless steel louvers?
Re: DML: dmc...clock
DML: Re: Battery
DML: JZD in Old Cars Weekly
DML: Strange Electrical Problems
DML: Re: Cooling Fans
DML: wood grain dash board
Re: DML: Re: Battery
DML: RE: Cooling Fans
DML: Re: Strange Electrical Problems
DML: Fuel Pickup Problems ...
DML: Re: Strange Electrical Problems (me too!!)
DML: Dick Ryan (Raddad) and his Cross Ciuntry Bike Ride (UPDATE)
Re: DML: Dick Ryan (Raddad) and his Cross Country Bike Ride
Re: DML: UPDATE ON DICK RYAN'S (RADDAD) BIKE RIDE
DML: Re: found one
Re: DML: RE: Cooling Fans
DML: Re: Re: Cooling Fans
Re: DML: Re: Strange Electrical Problems (me too!!)
DML: Wheel Balancing
Re: DML: On Board Battery Charger
Re: DML: Wheel Balancing
DML: To Owners in HAWAII
DML: re: On Board Battery Charger
DML: Re: Wheel Balancing
DML: Re: Re: Strange Electrical Problems (me too!!)
RE: DML: On Board Battery Charger
DML: Re: Wheel Balancing
DML: Gray Leather Pull Straps For Sale
DML: Painting the dash?
DML: Dash removal
DML: RE: Painting the dash?
DML: Swap DeLorean project
DML: VIN Question
Re: DML: Painting the dash?
DML: parts reference guide
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Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 10:43:04 -0700
From: "Dave Price" <davep@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Re: Re: Stainless Steel Louvers
>Jason,
>The name of the company was or is McCune Technology Inc., Fayetteville
>Steel PO Box 53834, Fayetteville, NC 28305 Tel. 919 424-2978. The last
>information I have on them is an ad they ran in DeLorean World in 1988, I
>do not know if they are still in business or not.
>Joe/DeLorean Services
>
Sure enough, they're still around, here is there new info:
http://www.fayettevillenc.com/McCune/
Phone: 910-424-2978 / 800-MCCUNE-1
Fax: 910-424-1131
email: mccune@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Cumberland County Industrial Center, Fayetteville NC 28305
I sent an email inquiring about the louvers, however, on thier site there
was mention about custom work for individuals (i.e. small/limited run or
one-offs for the "little guy") so even if they don't have any left or
make them anymore, I'm sure they'd still be into making a run of them for
some of us...
I'll keep the list posted on what I find out.
- - Dave
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Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 14:44:01 -0500
From: Duke <at88mph@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: Cooling Fans
Dave,
Could you give a little more info. I'm guessing that you mean when the
fans
come on to cool the engine that they never shut off. First off, is the
temp
getting back down to 165 degrees?? If not, the fans won't shut off. You
may
have some air trapped in the system so you may want to try to bleed it
out.
Also, if the A/C is on, they will run all the time as well.
If this dosen't help, please let me know,
Thanks,
Duke
PS Take the gun out of your mouth, point it at the DeLorean and your
pockets
will fill back up.
FerrisBuh@xxxxxxx wrote:
> I CANNOT GET THE FANS TO SHUT OFF ONCE THEY COME ON!
> Anyone?
>
> Gun in my mouth, pockets empty
> Dave
> #5252
> Lic. INSECUR
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Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 14:47:23 -0500
From: Duke <at88mph@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: dmc...clock
James,
Right under the time, you'll see two little holes. One is for the hour,
and one is for the minute. Get a paper clip and insert the end of the
paper clip into the hole and hold it down. That will change the time.
Hope this helps,
Duke
WtrResQ@xxxxxxx wrote:
> ive only had my "D" for about a month and a half. ive figured out the
> radio
> presets, but can anyone plz help me set the time.....thx
>
> james
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Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 16:26:49 -0400
From: "Richard" <dmc1219@xxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: RE: Cooling Fans
There is a diode in the circuit that allows the fans to operate when the
AC
is on, this overrides the temp switch. Try turning off the AC, the fans
should cycle with the temp switch.
Richard
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Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 18:21:12 -0400
From: "Stephen E. Klein" <klein98@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: stainless steel louvers?
Were there really stainless louvers and engine covers? If so how much
were
they and where could I find them? Does this mean never having to put
grease
on the black to make it actually look black instead of chalky white? I
cannot wait.
- -Stephen E. Klein
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Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 17:33:53 -0600
From: Jim Nichols <jhnichols@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: dmc...clock
WtrResQ@xxxxxxx wrote:
> ive only had my "D" for about a month and a half. ive figured out the
> radio
> presets, but can anyone plz help me set the time.....thx
>
> james
James,
Under the numbers should be two flush pins with indentations. The one on
the left set hours, the one on the right sets minutes. If you have just
holes there, the circuit board has dropped down and let the pins fall
into the clock. Below the pins are surface mount switches on the board
and if the pins have dropped out, or are not aligned and do not change
the numbers when you push them, you will have to take the clock apart to
reset them. Its not difficult, but I can't remember whether I had to
epoxy or solder the board back into position.
Jim #6884
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Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 16:31:21 -0700
From: Matt Peak <mpeak@xxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Re: Battery
Nick,
To add to what Joe has already said, the voltage regulator on the
alternator senses the car's electrical needs by reading the voltage at the
battery posts. If the battery is removed, the regulator thinks the car is
gulping all the amps it can and is craving an infinitesimal amount. The
alternator pumps out the most amps it can and electrical components on the
car are damaged: headlights explode, radios burnout, and sensitive
electrical equipment (such as onboard computers) are damaged. You may not
have had a problem before you disconnected the battery, but, depending on
how long it was disconnected for, you may have very serious problems now.
Matt Peak
>Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1998 15:09:04 EDT
>From: NJP548@xxxxxxx
>Subject: DML: Battery
>
>Dear List:
>
> When I had my car running today I decided to see what would happen if
>I
>disconnected my battery. When I disconnected it, my RPMs went crazy and
>my
>low voltage light was flashing on my instrument panel. Does this mean I
>have
>a problem with my alternator? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>Thanks
>
>Nick
>VIN#1852
>
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Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 19:17:41 -0700
From: "Murray Fisher" <murrayf@xxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: JZD in Old Cars Weekly
Article in the newest Old Cars Weekly re "Bunkie Knudsen taking over =
Pontiac Motor Division in 1957. Short paragraph says: "In the '60s, =
another Pontiac performance-and-marketing genius - John Z. DeLorean - =
came on the scene. However that is a story unto itself".
Murray=20
Vin 05962 Lic DMC-XII
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Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 22:44:18 -0500
From: Duke <at88mph@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Strange Electrical Problems
Today when I got home, I shut my car off for about 15-25 seconds and =
realized I needed to go somewhere else, so I put the key back in the =
ignition and went to start it and the car freaked out. It acted like =
the battery was weak (which I know it wasn't) and it tried to slowly =
turn over, but then it stopped trying to crank (it gave me that nice, =
dead battery 'rurr, rurr) while my needle on my RPM gauge spun around. =
I also heard the usual clicking noises from the relay compartment. I =
turned the key back and tried it a second time and it did the same thing =
again. Then I tried it a third time and it started right up.??!!?? =
I've had the spinning RPM problem when I've had a almost dead battery =
before, but never when its fully charged. I have a good starter and =
alternator so I'm guessing its electrical. One other problem that I have =
which I wouldn't think would be related, is that I have a lose wire =
somewhere under the dash. Every so often, my headlights, (bright or dim =
or neither) turn signal (right side only) and horn will stop working, =
but if I shake the wires under the steering wheel, they start working =
again. I'll be checking this tomorrow to find the cause.=20
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Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 21:57:49 -0700
From: "Tito A. Lugtu" <TALugtu@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Re: Cooling Fans
Dave
The switch for the cooling fans are directly connected to the temp sensor
....
try disconnecting the terminal of temp sensor ... then connect it to
ground
.... the fans should turn on ... then remove from ground ... the fans
should
turn-off ... if not, replace the relay going directly to fans ...
tito
- -----Original Message-----
From: FerrisBuh@xxxxxxx <FerrisBuh@xxxxxxx>
To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Wednesday, July 29, 1998 12:20 PM
Subject: DML: Cooling Fans
>Hey everyone,
>
>See if anyone here can determine this one: I have two new Bosch cooling fans.
>They work well. The pressure in the cooling sstem is a perfect 15 lbs. and
>holding. However, for the life of me, even with a day old cooling fan sending
>switch and seal, I CANNOT GET THE FANS TO SHUT OFF ONCE THEY COME ON!
>Anyone?
>
>Gun in my mouth, pockets empty
>Dave
>#5252
>Lic. INSECUR
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Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 08:51:25 +0000
From: Bob Brandys <oehcs@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: wood grain dash board
I also remember the burl wood dash board accessory. I have never seen
it on a D yet.
However, at the British car show here in Illinois, there was a vendor
that made these dashboards for virtually all the British cars.
I asked him if he could make one for a D and he said it was not a
problem as long as we give him the dimensions and shape. He price was
around 400.00 just like it was 10 years ago.
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Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 08:55:06 -0600
From: Jim Nichols <jhnichols@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: Re: Battery
Matt Peak wrote:
> Nick,
>
> snip---The alternator pumps out the most amps it can and electrical
> components on the
> car are damaged: headlights explode, radios burnout, and sensitive
> electrical equipment (such as onboard computers) are damaged. You may not
> have had a problem before you disconnected the battery, but, depending on
> how long it was disconnected for, you may have very serious problems now.
>
> Matt Peak
>
I don't think so! Without the battery, the alternator puts out 14.4
volts
at whatever current is required to keep the system at 14.4 volts---except
it
is pulsating DC, not filtered. The alternator is actually a three phase
AC
generator with diodes and a voltage regulator ot produce pulsating DC at
14.4
volts at a frequency of three times its rotation rate. Headlights will
work
normally, the radio will whine, and the computer controlled equipment
will go
wild because it senses varying voltages. The battery acts as a buffer to
absorb the peaks and fill in between the peaks to give a smooth, non
rippling
voltage.
Jim #6884
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Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 08:01:44 -0700
From: "Grimsrud, Knut S" <knut.s.grimsrud@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: RE: Cooling Fans
FerrisBuh@xxxxxxx wrote:
> ... I have two new Bosch cooling fans. They work well. The pressure
> in the cooling sstem is a perfect 15 lbs. and holding. However, for
> the life of me, even with a day old cooling fan sending switch and
> seal, I CANNOT GET THE FANS TO SHUT OFF ONCE THEY COME ON!
I have a similar problem that arose after replacing my thermostat. In my
case the fans will shut off, but just barely. I believe that in my case
the
condition is caused by the following factors:
The thermal switch in the coolant pipe that controls the cooling fans has
some built in hysteresis -- that is, when the thermal switch closes, it
remains closed until the sensed temperature is a bit below what it was
when
it first closed. In my case the switch closes and activates the fans about
one needle-width above the 160 degree mark on the temp gauge and remains
closed until the gauge needle is right at the 160 degree mark (I don't
know
that the mark is actually at 160 degrees, but its the unlabeled mark on
the
gauge that's halfway between 100 and 220).
My new thermostat seems to have a slightly higher temperature setpoint
than
my previous one and seems to like to keep the temperature at, or very
slightly above, the 160 degree mark on the temp gauge (my old thermostat
seemed to hold the temperature about a needlewidth below the 160 degree
mark). These two factors combine to create the following scenario: when
the
cooling fans kick on, they will stay on until the temperature dips low
enough for the hysteresis in the switch to kick it off, but my thermostat
setpoint is high enough that although the temperature comes down it won't
come down low enough for the thermal switch to kick off (or in my case the
thermostat allows the temperature to just barely dip low enough to satisfy
the thermal switch).
I don't know if you have a similar scenario, but in my case I believe the
solution is to get a thermostat with a slightly lower setpoint such that
the
temperature can come down enough to reliably have the cooling fans
disengage. Your mileage may vary.
Knut Grimsrud
DeLorean Club of Oregon
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Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 11:02:46 -0400
From: "Joe " <dmcjoe@xxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Re: Strange Electrical Problems
Duke,
Sounds like a bad battery to chassis ground or a bad battery cell.
Depending on you Vin. your main battery ground is either at the right rear
trailing arm bushing or the right rear (gray) chassis rail below the "jump
start post" in the engine compartment. To check your battery go to any
service facility and ask them to do a "load test" on the battery. The
loose
wire under your dash is not the cause of your problem.
Joe/DeLorean Services
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Date: 30 Jul 1998 12:17:03 -0500
From: "Kemp, Nick (MN10) 001" <Nick.Kemp@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Fuel Pickup Problems ...
About a year ago, I ran a question regarding a perplexing problem. The
car
killed as I let the clutch up going forward and it ran fine in reverse.
A
couple people responded that I should check the fuel pick-up. What I
found
was that the fuel pick-up was broken at the pump fitting. I cut it off
and
reassembled. To my dismay, the problem did not go away. After
discussing
with Joe, I rechecked and found the same problem. This time I made some
modifications until I can order the replacement parts.
In my case, there is no baffle, the in-tank mounting stud is gone and the
pickup is weighted down with lead strips. My guess is that the mass of
the
strips caused the hose to open going forward, causing the gas flow to
stop,
and going in reverse it would push it tight enough to allow gas flow.
A lot of people ask about mysterious engine stopping. Take a look at
your
fuel pickup arrangement. You may be surprised at what you find. When my
car
killed, it simply and quietly died. No noise or other warning. It
wasn't
until I talked with Joe that I realized that there was supposed to be a
mounting stud for a baffle and this would have kept the pickup from
"swinging" around the tank. It probably would have help the original
hose
last longer also.
The temporary fix has the pickup straight down from the pump on new hose
with
a plastic container as a fuel baffle. The disadvantage of this is that
I
may not have the pickup on the tank bottom, limiting the "range" of the
tank.
I thought I read that someone else has had to do the same but I cannot
find
it in the back issues. Can someone forward that listing?
The replacement hose (1/2 inch gas line) is SUBSTANTIALLY sturdier than
the
original but it does not have the bends that the original has. If I
create a
custom long term solution I'll keep you informed.
Thanks to those who originally pointed me towards the gas tank!!!
Nicholas Kemp
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Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 14:01:05 -0400
From: "yugoman" <mdrig@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Re: Strange Electrical Problems (me too!!)
My car has a mind of its own too! Took it on my first long road trip this
morning, about 200 miles or more. Still idling unevenly, maybe just needs
driving. (It turned over 17,000 this morning). Kept the windows down and
no
ac because the blower runs for a while, then suddenly shuts off, then
later
comes on again. The fan fail light goes on and off randomly, and the
headlights and panel lights would in turn dim or brighten. A couple of
times
the fuel guage pegged out, otherwise it doesn't go much past halfway, even
with a full tank. I have a Fanzilla but haven't figured out installation
yet. Will this solve the lights dimming and brightening, or should I look
elsewhere? Is my car possesed?
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Date: Thu, 30 Jul 98 11:20:08 -0700
From: James Espey <espey@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Dick Ryan (Raddad) and his Cross Ciuntry Bike Ride (UPDATE)
I received this note this morning from Leslie Ryan, Dick Ryans wife...
********** Begin forwarded mesage ***********
On 7/30/98 6:35 AM, Leslie Ryan shared these fine thoughts...
>James, Dick asked me to let you know that he received lots of birthday well
>wishes from the dmc news group and he really appreciated it. Also, Mike S
>came out to cheer Dick on the route in Ohio. Mike and friends had signs,
>etc. Dick somehow missed them but he heard about it from lots of people on
>the ride that day. My grandson and I leave tomorrow to meet him in DC.
>Can't quite believe he's done it. Guess these last few days have been hard
>riding. Dick will be back on-line August 15. Leslie
********** End forwarded mesage ***********
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Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 15:02:54 -0400
From: Mike Substelny <SUBSTEM@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: Dick Ryan (Raddad) and his Cross Country Bike Ride
(UPDATE)
Sender: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Precedence: list
Reply-To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
For those interested in Dick Ryan's cross-country bike ride:
I knew the Big Ride planned to pass through Cleveland, but the map on
the Internet did not give the specific streets. Then last Saturday
morning
while sweeping my front porch I saw a dozen bicycles passing by . . .
THE BIG RIDE WAS GOING RIGHT PAST MY HOUSE!
I immediately parked my DeLorean in the front yard to get attention. My
wife Patti and I quickly rummaged through the attic for posterboard to
make signs like:
"Hooray for the American Lung Association Big Riders!"
"Good Luck Riders!"
"Go 'Raddad' Dick Ryan!"
We hung the signs and set up a table with a pitcher of water and some
crackers in our front yard. Every time a group of riders passed by we
applauded and cheered them on. Some of our family and friends joined
in and eventually it looked like a party in our yard.
Through the course of the day dozens of riders stopped to sit in the
shade and visit with us. They said there were about 700 of them at that
point, and almost all of them knew Dick Ryan from Colorado. They talked
about him with awe. Apparently Raddad is a celebrity among the riders.
A few of the riders didn't want water, they just wanted to get a look at
the DeLorean. They wanted a picture of themselves beside the car, in
the car, or just the car by itself.
We stayed out there the rest of the day, but we never saw Dick Ryan.
Some of the riders said that he usually leads the pack, so he probably
passed by early while we were in the house making our signs. We did
hand business cards to some riders and support crew so they could let
Raddad know that we were cheering for him.
- - Mike Substelny
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Date: Thu, 30 Jul 98 12:41:57 -0700
From: James Espey <espey@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: UPDATE ON DICK RYAN'S (RADDAD) BIKE RIDE
For those new to the list, this may explain the recent Dick Ryan
postings...
>I received this update on Dick Ryan and his cross-country bike ride from
>his wife Leslie. For those new to the list, Dick Ryan is a longtime
>DML'er who is on a cross-country bike ride for charity with several
>hundred other bicyclists. As if doing a cross-country bike ride at age
>65 wasn't daunting in istself, DIck also has an artifical leg!
>
To email Dick Ryan, send email to "bigride@xxxxxxx" and put "Richard Ryan
#1561" in the subject line.
James Espey
Moderator, DeLorean Mailing List
http://www.dmcnews.com
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Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 09:45:05 -1000
From: "Thomas Smithson" <tsassoc@xxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Re: found one
Derek, good luck on your purchase. If you do get it I hope you will
contact
me as I and a couple other DMC owners here in Hawaii are going to try to
get
our cars in the next St. Patty's day parade in that they are products of
the
auld sod, Erin. Aloha!
Thom Smithson
tsassoc@xxxxxxxx
VIN #3089
- -----Original Message-----
From: Derek Burton <burtond1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Friday, July 24, 1998 1:45 PM
Subject: DML: found one
>Hello fellow DMC'ers,
>I hope to soon join you. I am looking at a DMC this weekend here in
>Hawaii- kind of tough to find out here. I will keep you posted on what
>I find.
>
>Aloha,
> Derek E Burton
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Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 15:35:51 -0500
From: Duke <at88mph@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: RE: Cooling Fans
One other thing that I just found out. (Feeling really stupid now!) My
'D was
idled at 1,500 RPM and my fans were never shutting off. Last night I
adjusted
my idle to be at 1,000 RPM and now my fans will cycle on and off like they
should.
Hope this helps,
Duke
> FerrisBuh@xxxxxxx wrote:
>
> > ... I have two new Bosch cooling fans. They work well. The pressure
> > in the cooling sstem is a perfect 15 lbs. and holding. However, for
> > the life of me, even with a day old cooling fan sending switch and
> > seal, I CANNOT GET THE FANS TO SHUT OFF ONCE THEY COME ON!
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Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 16:35:56 -0500
From: "BRUCE BENSON" <delornut@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Re: Re: Cooling Fans
> >Hey everyone,
> >
> >See if anyone here can determine this one: I have two new Bosch cooling
fans.
> >They work well. The pressure in the cooling sstem is a perfect 15 lbs. and
> >holding. However, for the life of me, even with a day old cooling fan
sending
> >switch and seal, I CANNOT GET THE FANS TO SHUT OFF ONCE THEY COME ON!
> >Anyone?
> >
The Bosch fans use a different plug which means you had to do some wiring
changes. On the chance you might have got the wiring backwards, the fans
would be running backwards and hence would run till the cows come home
without reducing the temperature in the cooling system. You may want to be
sure the hookup is correct.
Bruce Benson
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Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 14:17:04 -0700
From: "lseiler@xxxxxxxxxxxx" <lseiler@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: Re: Strange Electrical Problems (me too!!)
At 02:01 PM 7/30/98 -0400, you wrote:
>My car has a mind of its own too! Took it on my first long road trip this
>morning, about 200 miles or more. Still idling unevenly, maybe just needs
>driving. (It turned over 17,000 this morning). Kept the windows down and
>no
>ac because the blower runs for a while, then suddenly shuts off, then
>later
>comes on again. The fan fail light goes on and off randomly, and the
>headlights and panel lights would in turn dim or brighten. A couple of
>times
>the fuel guage pegged out, otherwise it doesn't go much past halfway, even
>with a full tank. I have a Fanzilla but haven't figured out installation
>yet. Will this solve the lights dimming and brightening, or should I look
>elsewhere? Is my car possesed?
>
reply:
I am sure you will get a more tech-nickel reply later, but for what it's
worth...I had some of the same problems, the Fan Zilla will solve a lot of
your problems as it did mine. Take my word for it, the FankZilla is really
very easy to install. If I can do it then you can! My desk name plate
doesn't say "Mr. Stupid" for nothing.......
You have other problems but The fan problems will go away and the low
electrical problem when your AC compressor comes on will improve!
Lee
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Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 13:58:52 -0500
From: scottmueller@xxxxxxxxx (Scott Mueller)
Subject: DML: Wheel Balancing
I have had a front end shimmy for quit some time. It would shake from
50 to 65 MPH. I had read several posts and articles which said that the
wheels either had to be balanced on the car or other special procedures
had to be followed. I called around Mobile and was not able to find a
shop that could balance on the car.
I went down to the Walmart and they did a dynamic balance (2 plane) and
placed weights on both sides on the wheels. The car now glides down the
road.
They normaly charge $30.00 for a lifetime balance and rotation, but
since you do not rotate the tires, they charged me $20.00
If your having problems, WALMART has a great deal.
Do you think I should send this into Paul Harvey, maybe he will use this
on his show ;')
Scott Mueller
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Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 15:22:02 -0600
From: Greg Guillot <gguillot@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: On Board Battery Charger
There's an interesting and inexpensive device called a "Battery Float
Charger" from Harbor Freight Tools for $9.95. Here's the official
description:
"The battery float charger is used for the maintenance of wet or gell
cell batteries that are stored or used periodically in such items as
boats, cars snowmobiles, ATV's and tractors."
You can see it on their web site at
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/taf/DisplayItem.taf?Itemnumber=37137
I think I'm going to order one for myself. I don't see how you could
go wrong for 10 bucks (unless it fries your battery.)
- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
On 25 Jul 98 at 8:20, Scott Mueller wrote:
> I have read many posts on the list about members DeLoreans, which are
> not driven regularly, having the battery discharge. Fortunatly, I do
> not have any major electrical leaks ;)
>
> But, I was at WALMART yesterday and saw a neat device that I just had to
> buy.
>
> It is a "fully automatic onboard battery maintainer/charger" rated at
> 1.5 Amp. It cost $25.00 and I was able to mount it to the driverside
> engine compartment. It is hard wired to the red jumper post and to the
> engine for ground. It is 1" x 3" x 5", black case and a green LED
> indicates power on and a red LED indicates full charge. I had to
> increase the length of the positive lead and inlarge the mounting hole
> on the bracket. I mounted it to an existing stud just forward of the
> carbon canister.
>
<SNIP>
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Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 20:07:31 -0600
From: Jim Nichols <jhnichols@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: Wheel Balancing
Scott Mueller wrote:
> I have had a front end shimmy for quit some time. It would shake from
> 50 to 65 MPH. I had read several posts and articles which said that the
> wheels either had to be balanced on the car or other special procedures
> had to be followed.
A couple years ago I had the same problem with out of balance between 65
and 70. One day I found a flat lead weight on the garage floor with
double
sided foam tape on one side. The tape was no longer sticky. The original
balance was to use stick-on weights to the inside of the wheel and they
would be held in place by the foam tape and centrifugal force. Fifteen
years did its thing on the tape and the weights fell off. I went to the
local Western Auto and they balanced the wheels with modern aluminum wheel
weights, which weren't available 17 years ago. Now its smooth as silk at
85.If you have your wheels balanced, make sure the original weights are
removed.
Jim #6884
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Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1998 10:41:00 +0900
From: Osamu Shimohara <HCD04403@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: To Owners in HAWAII
Aloha from Japan!
We(family) are going to Hawaii from August 18th to August 26th.
If possible,I want to meet and talk with DeLorean owners in
Hawaii. Of course we want to look your DeLorean(s).
Any Owners in Hawaii, please e-mail me at <hcd04403@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Osamu Shimohara
VIN 00938
President of DOC(DeLorean Owners Club Japan)
Thank you!
Osamu Shimohara (hcd04403@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx)
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Date: Thu, 30 Jul 98 22:37:06 -0000
From: David Swingle <dswingle@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: re: On Board Battery Charger
>From: scottmueller@xxxxxxxxx (Scott Mueller)
>Subject: DML: On Board Battery Charger
>...
>But, I was at WALMART yesterday and saw a neat device that I just had to
>buy.
>
>It is a "fully automatic onboard battery maintainer/charger" rated at
>1.5 Amp. It cost $25.00 and I was able to mount it to the driverside
>engine compartment. It is hard wired to the red jumper post and to the
>engine for ground. . . .
>
>Has anyone tried this device yet? I will probably buy one for my boat,
>it sits longer than the car between uses and that big block sure takes a
>lot of juice to turn it over.
>
>Scott Mueller
Yes, I have one of these, also from Walmart, but I use it a little
differently. The unit is a Schumacher "Automatic Onboard Battery
Charger/Maintainer 1.5 A". I cut the lugs off of the charger, and
installed the positive lug to the battery jump-start terminal next to the
coil cover, and the negative lug to the ground point on the frame just
below it. I got 2-conductor Molex connector set from Radio shack. The
female molex plug just hangs from the wires, and is easily tucked out of
sight behind the water bottle. The male molex plug gets installed on the
charger. If parking the car for a long time I now have a place to plug in
the charger. I have left the car parked as much as a month without it,
though, with no problem. I have an Interstate MT78 Battery and the
Motorola alternator.
In the winter I remove the battery from the car and keep it in the house,
with the charger attached with a similar molex plug wired to alligator
clips. I leave it plugged in all winter.
The only objection to keeping the charger permanently on the battery IN
THE CAR is acid gassing in the confined compartment. This is not such a
big deal in a more conventional car with the battery under the hood. With
the DMC sitting closed up, the battery fumes don't vent very well even
though there is a vent tube at the back of the battery compartment.
A friend who is an Interstate Battery distributor indicated that this
type of charger will extend the life of a battery greatly compared to
just letting it sit, even indoors. This is similar to the "Battery Buddy"
mentioned previously - it charges the battery to a set voltage, and the
turns the charge completely off until the voltage drops to a lower set
point. This is much better for a battery than a continuous trickle
charge.
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Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 23:23:24 -0400
From: "Joe " <dmcjoe@xxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Re: Wheel Balancing
Scott,
Consider yourself lucky; only half of the wheel balance problems can be
successfully corrected by a computer balance. If there are no dynamic
changes in your suspension system or wheels you will probably be able to
take advantage of the Walmart service for years to come, many other
DeLorean owners are not that lucky.
Joe/DeLorean Services
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Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 23:33:10 -0400
From: "Joe " <dmcjoe@xxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Re: Re: Strange Electrical Problems (me too!!)
yugoman,
To correct your intermittent blower problem replace your blower circuit
breaker with a 35 amp unit.
Install your Fanzilla it will eliminate the electrical problems that you
describe.
To correct your fuel gauge problem install a Tankzilla.
Joe/DeLorean Services
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Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1998 07:16:40 -0400
From: Cirillo Ronald A NUWCDIVNPT <CirilloRA@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: DML: On Board Battery Charger
Hi all,
Just to let you know I bought one of the Harbor Freight Battery
Float Chargers. It works like a charm. No more battery problems when I
let my car sit. I have also bought two more (one for my Triumph and one
for my motorcycle)
Ron
> ----------
>
> There's an interesting and inexpensive device called a "Battery Float
> Charger" from Harbor Freight Tools for $9.95. Here's the official
> description:
> "The battery float charger is used for the maintenance of wet or gell
> cell batteries that are stored or used periodically in such items as
> boats, cars snowmobiles, ATV's and tractors."
> You can see it on their web site at
> http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/taf/DisplayItem.taf?Itemnumber=37137
>
> I think I'm going to order one for myself. I don't see how you could
> go wrong for 10 bucks (unless it fries your battery.)
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
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Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1998 09:01:25 -0600
From: "Aaron Barrus" <asbarrus@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Re: Wheel Balancing
Joe,
A standard computer balance has always corrected my shimmying problems, =
although I always get the "warranty" deal on my tires because the balance
=
seems to wear off after 5000 miles or so (???). What other types of =
problems could cause shimmying that normal balancing wouldn't fix?
Also, can you help me understand the procedure for on-the-car balancing?
=
I have also called local shops in Utah and nobody has heard of such a =
procedure.
Thank you!
Aaron
>>> "Joe " <dmcjoe@xxxxxxx> 07/30 9:23 PM >>>
Scott,
Consider yourself lucky; only half of the wheel balance problems can be
successfully corrected by a computer balance. If there are no dynamic
changes in your suspension system or wheels you will probably be able to
take advantage of the Walmart service for years to come, many other
DeLorean owners are not that lucky.
Joe/DeLorean Services
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Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1998 15:44:31 -0000
From: James Espey <espey@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Gray Leather Pull Straps For Sale
I have a few sets of gray leather pull straps left for the later style
cars (no ring, attachs directly to the door panel). I need to move these
straps! $33 per pair includes shipping anywhere in the US. Send
check/money order to:
DMC-News/James Espey
P.O. Box 4833
Mesa, AZ 85211-4833
Questions? Email me directly, please...
Thanks!
James
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Date: Sat, 01 Aug 1998 10:09:38 +0100
From: "Ian T. A. Foster" <ian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Painting the dash?
Hallo DMCers,
Has anyone used plastic paint to rejuvinate their front dash? My dash
has suffered slightly from sun damage ... it seems 'bleeched' as if the
sun had reacted with a polish. As there are no cracks I am looking into
alternatives to replacement. My aircraft engineer buddy say they use a
plastic paint for this same problem in S.California. Has anyone had any
experience doing this ... looks good or a botch job?!?
Thanks for any comments.
Cheers, IAN (Hong Kong)
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Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1998 21:08:15 PDT
From: "De Miller" <demillerkansas@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Dash removal
All:
My "new" DeLorean is in the shop for a few minor adjustments before I
take delivery. I am doing a few cosmetic things while waiting on the
shop to get the mechanical stuff done. I want everything else to be done
when it is up & running. I removed the rider seat yesterday & took it to
the upholstery shop for recovering. The dash needs a a few cracks
repaired. My question is this: can the dash be "easily" removed so I can
take it to the repair shop? Also, the air dam is in need of a little
mending. Can it be "easily" removed to the repair shop can be working on
that also? I'd appreciate any help you can give and keep up the great
work. De Miller, Kansas City.
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Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1998 23:20:05 -0500
From: thgraham@xxxxxxxx (Travis Graham)
Subject: DML: RE: Painting the dash?
I had a new black dash and binnacle painted gray. Since my existing glove
box door was discolored (it was brown due to sun damage), but had no
cracks,
I had it painted along with the dash so I wouldn't have to shell out the
bucks for a new door. It looked great...but one day the brown returned!!
The painted dash and binnacle were, and are currently fine, just the old
door's paint faded. I ended up buying a new glove box door instead of
repeating the process.
Having all parts painted is MUCH cheaper than buying new replacements and
will look perfectly fine, but I just wanted to warn you that the brown
might
someday return. Maybe my De Lorean just doesn't like me?
Good luck!
Travis Graham
- -----Original Message-----
From: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxx On Behalf Of Ian T. A. Foster
Sent: Saturday, August 01, 1998 4:10 AM
To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: DML: Painting the dash?
Has anyone used plastic paint to rejuvinate their front dash? My dash
has suffered slightly from sun damage ... it seems 'bleeched' as if the
sun had reacted with a polish. As there are no cracks I am looking into
alternatives to replacement.
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Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1998 23:50:01 -0500
From: espey@xxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: DML: Swap DeLorean project
Found this online tonight...
****************
Subject: Swap DeLorean project for nice 914 2.0 or one of those ugly 356
notchbacks or $5500.
From: bob@xxxxxxx
Date: 1998/07/31
Newsgroups: alt.autos.porsche
Have DeLorean. 1981. 5sp. PRV motor but it has a holded piston.
It's a good 10' car, not a showpiece but will make a dandy eye turning
beater :-) or put a 4.0L Rover motor in and it might go almost as fast
as one would like. Have title but it's a theft recovery and this is
GA so if you keep it in GA you will have to make roadworthy and have
inspected to obtain a new title. Also have bill of sale from the
insurance company. I've no time to mess with the 'D' car as house
mending, work, garage construction, kids, wife, etc etc are
leaving less time than was available in my youndger days. Plus, the
days are shorter now.
$5500 cash or swap for one of the above mentioned 'P' cars.
Photos available upon receipt of yours (email or url only).
- -bob
****************
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Date: Sat, 1 Aug 1998 02:47:06 EDT
From: OLopez1@xxxxxxx
Subject: DML: VIN Question
I have a question about the VIN numbers on the DeLoreans
Most people when they post a message or refer to their car usually post
the
last four or five digits of the VIN number. Since I don't own a DeLorean
(yet) I was wondering if the beginning part part of the VIN number is the
same
to all DeLoreans. If so what would an entire VIN look like.
Thanx
OL
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Date: Sat, 1 Aug 1998 06:21:58 EDT
From: WtrResQ@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: DML: Painting the dash?
i dont have any info regarding painting the dash, but a friend of mine
recently "re-died" his leather in his jag. it looks great. he got the
dye
from a quality cobbler in the area. for what its worth.
james
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Date: Sat, 01 Aug 1998 10:49:16 PDT
From: "De Miller" <demillerkansas@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: parts reference guide
Hello everyone:
I would like to know if there is some sort of master parts catalog,
reference listing etc., available? It would be helpful to use on the
great site service Delorean Motor Company has. I've used it a couple
times and it works great, but I don't know the correct name for the
parts I'm looking for and it apparently needs the correct name. For
example, I was interested in how much new rubber door molding would be.
There are a few little chunks missing out of mine. Well, I put it in the
search and could find nothing. I am sure that stuff is available, it
must be called something besides molding..but I don't know what. And the
search could never find that "little thing-a-ma-jig that's under the
left side of the dash". So, if I had a reference with the correct name,
I'd know what to look for. Tip for those late night net surfers: the
www.usadmc.com parts search is great to tool around in at 1 or 2 a.m.!
Keep up the great work! De Miller. Kansas City
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