Before posting messages or replies, see the posting policy rules at: www.dmcnews.com/Admin/rules.html To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderator@xxxxxxxxxxx ------------------------------------------------------------------------ There are 9 messages in this issue. Topics in this digest: 1. Re: Old Convention Pictures From: billschaferabn@xxxxxxx 2. Sunshades From: James Espey <james@xxxxxxxxxx> 3. Re: Inerta Switch/fuse Relationship/best route to avoid DIY problems From: "Claude Landi" <cbl302@xxxxxxx> 4. Re: airbrushed T-shirts From: kkoncelik@xxxxxxx 5. DMC VIN list (chronology info) uploaded to DMCNews web site From: "Grimsrud, Knut S" <knut.s.grimsrud@xxxxxxxxx> 6. Concours -- common interior judging items From: "Grimsrud, Knut S" <knut.s.grimsrud@xxxxxxxxx> 7. Cost effective fix for Steering collum switches From: "Vin#5462" <dmc12@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 8. New chronology info From: abatt10347@xxxxxxx 9. Re: Inertia switch / fuse relationship? From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe@xxxxxxx> ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 1 Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 23:56:55 EDT From: billschaferabn@xxxxxxx Subject: Re: Old Convention Pictures Trevor, I read something on those headlight covers a while ago I think they were Honda covers. Bill #11596 ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 23:36:09 -0500 From: James Espey <james@xxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Sunshades It's getting to be summertime again, and someone recently asked me about out custom-fit sunshade that I discussed last fall. The sunshade has been tested, modified and proven to be a stellar performer. It's currently available in stock for immediate delivery. Thanks to everyone for their patience, I think you'll all be pleased with the results... http://www.usadmc.com/Parts/Sunshade/sunshade.asp James Espey DeLorean Motor Company Houston, Texas 281/568-9573 800/USA-DMC1 http://www.usadmc.com ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 3 Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 05:27:35 -0400 From: "Claude Landi" <cbl302@xxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Inerta Switch/fuse Relationship/best route to avoid DIY problems What I usually do before I take something apart that I might have a problem with,I take out my palmcorder,and tape it,so that I have a "second chance" to see the item before it was taken apart,I expecially zoom in on any wiring connections,so that if I am not sure how something gets connected,it is just a matter of playing back the tape,and hitting the pause button to see what I would otherwise have to judge from memory to remember,my camcorder has the little LCD view screen,so that I could view as I am working on the car,I usually do step by step taping,as it is good reference for future repairs if needed. Also making diagrams or taking instant pictures also helps,but nothing beats video,it has helped me out more than any repair manual could.You can pick up a "cheap" camcorder on EBAY,I did. Claude 000570 3/81 ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 4 Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 07:34:44 EDT From: kkoncelik@xxxxxxx Subject: Re: airbrushed T-shirts I can take you all the way up to the night of the banquet for the friday and saturday dinners, ccar show registration and the Rock and Roll hall of fame. As far as the sunday event I have 30 remaining tickets at first come first serve and the science center will be avail but at regular cost. You are never going to see a collection of cars like this again I promise My next show is going to be a totally different theme. As far as airfare try priceline.com Ken ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 5 Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 08:35:55 -0700 From: "Grimsrud, Knut S" <knut.s.grimsrud@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: DMC VIN list (chronology info) uploaded to DMCNews web site I have uploaded the latest DMC VIN list derived from the DeLorean Owners Directory to the DMCNews web site available at http://www.dmcnews.com/faq/n_chron.htm The uploaded materials includes the VIN list as well as a chart on the geographic distribution of cars in the US plus a graph of the build rate and options mix during the DMC production run. A detailed statistical analysis of the earlier DOD data is available in the DeCO newsletter back issues (also available in the FAQ) and I'll update that additional analysis in the next newsletter issue. Knut ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 6 Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 10:20:23 -0700 From: "Grimsrud, Knut S" <knut.s.grimsrud@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: Concours -- common interior judging items I had the pleasure of judging interiors at the Millenium Concours in St. Louis and thought that for the benefit of those preparing their cars for competition at the upcoming event hosted by Ken Koncelick, I would share some of the most common point deductions I assessed the last time around. The considerations I included in the judging included fit, finish, preparation, and condition. The following comments reference the corresponding item on the judging sheet. 1 - The door panels were generally in good condition although in a several cars there was poor panel fit between the upper door panel and the arm rest. Another problem area with the upper door panel is near the very top where it comes up against the window glass. In this area, the panel sometimes leaves a large gap visible from the outside. 2 - The door sill plates carried deductions for about half of the cars. There were two most common issues: 1) Many cars had a wear mark on the door sill plate about 2/3 of the way forward on the outer corner edge. I'm not sure what this wear mark cames from but it was in the same place on all the cars that had it. I suppose it could be possible that this mark comes from the pull strap getting slammed in the door frequently or some similar event. 2) Many of the cars had door sill plates that were not cleaned properly and were left with dirt and cleaning fluid residue. I checked the innermost grove of the door sill plates by running my little finger down it and about half the cars had dirst suspended in cleaning fluid gunk in this groove. 3 - I had very few if any deductions for the rear side panels. 4 - The headliners were generally in good shape, but a surprising number of cars had headliner fabric with the grain running the wrong way. 5 - The sun visors were generally in very good shape and I had few deductions for the visors themselves. However, the label that is supposed to be affixed to the driver's visor was in poor shape (or missing) on about half the cars. This label seems a bit troubleseome since it probably does not adhere well to the fabric backing of the visor. Many of the labels were wavy and irregular or had their corners bent up. 6 - Although the pull-straps were in good shape, the plastic bezels in the door armrest sufferred from some common problems. On about half of the cars I judged, the plastic bezel around the door release latch was popped up at the front edge and riding over the top of the rear portion of the plastic bezel around the air vent. 7 - I don't think I had any deductions for the rear-view mirror 8 - The seats were generally in good condition, although many showed wear appropriate for the mileage. Only fractional points were deducted for mild wear on the driver's seats, however, I did make a point to deduct according to the wear to differentiate those with pristine seats. 9 - The rear cargo net carried deductions for about a quarter of the vehicles due to the net being fastened in a way that distorted the regular diamond shaped pattern it produces. The rear cargo net should produce an undistorted and regular appearance without sagging. 10 - The console was generally not a problem area. 11 - The radio generally was not a problem area 12 - The dash and binnacle were generally good 13 - The A-pillar trim carried deduction on a small number of cars due either to issues with good fit where it meets the dash or other minor cosmetic blemishes (like excess windshield glue visible on A-pillar trim). 14 - There were no real surprises with the carpets. However, the carpet on the rear parcel shelf had poor fit on every car judged (in fact, I don't think I have ever seen a rear parcel shelf carped pad that actually seemed to fit). Since all the cars had the exact same deduction for this poor fit of the rear parcel shelf carpet, this did not result in any differentiation between cars. 15 - The instrument cluster carried few surprises although a car or two had 170MPH speedos which carried full deduction. 16 - Pedals were generally good 17 - Steering wheels were generally good, although a couple cars exhibited unusually large gaps between the center steering wheel pad and the rest of the steering wheel. 18 - Interior lighting was generally not a problem area 19 - Seat belts were surprisingly a major source of deductions. The deductions came from multiple different sources. A couple seat belts showed minor fraying or other visible nicks/damage to their edges. Several cars surprisingly had the seatbelt twisted up in the retraction mechanism causing it to exhibit an awkward twist and not laying properly. Also, the seatbelt label was missing on a couple cars and on others was wadded up in a way that required it to be unforled to be inspected. 20 - The battery compartment on several cars did not appear to have received attention and in some cases lacked detailing and proper cleaning. In a couple cases the incorrect battery brand was used and in several cases the battery hold-down strap was incorrectly tied. 21 - The relay compartment had few surprises, although many cars got deductions for non-original equipment in the relay compartment 22 - I was surprised by the number of cars that I had to give deductions to for having incorrect aftermarket floormats. In the area of dealer options, it appears they can only count against you since they are not required and if they are supplied but are incorrect or in poor shape they carry deductions. I hope this gives everyone that is preparing their car for the upcoming concours competition some ideas for areas of the interior to focus on. Feel free to drop me a line if you have questions or clarifications. Good luck to the upcoming competitors! Knut ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 7 Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 23:25:52 +0100 From: "Vin#5462" <dmc12@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Cost effective fix for Steering collum switches How to fix you dip/beam steering column switches for just £6.50 I have found the exact same Lucas part number for the steering column stem switches which control indicators, dip/beam headlights, horn and windscreen wipers on another common car, the 1984 Mini. Look at my pictures / projects page to find out more. www.btinternet.com/dmc12 see what you think Good luck ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 8 Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 19:42:55 EDT From: abatt10347@xxxxxxx Subject: New chronology info Fellow DMCer's, Knut my hat goes off to you with the newest update on the chronology information. The graph and US map of #'s of cars in each is GREAT!!! Having compiled the repair shop list I know first hand how time consuming this type of data is. DMCer's if you haven't taken the time to check this info out, you should. Thanks again Knut, your effort is little by little solving the mystery of how many were produced and with what options. Bruce Battles Vin# 06569 ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 9 Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 20:31:55 -0400 From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe@xxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Inertia switch / fuse relationship? Mike, The inertia switch does not require any electrical power to operate. It is, however, wired to the door lock circuit. Shorting this lead to ground would cause fuse #10 to blow but should not effect operation of the fuel pump. "We're here to help you" DMC Joe / De Lorean Services / <dmcjoe@xxxxxxx> Web Site: <www.deloreanservices.com> . ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike Substelny <msubstel@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, May 01, 2000 11:44 AM Subject: [DML] Inertia switch / fuse relationship? > Ever since I acquired my DeLorean it has not had an inertia switch. A > previous owner removed and bypassed it (all 81 and most 82 inertia > switches were recalled) and I never bothered to replace it. Until now. > > Last week I wanted to crank my engine without starting it, so I removed > the bypass. This worked nicely, and I congratulated myself on > cleverness. Unfortunately, the first time I put the bypass back I did > it incorrectly. I am concerned that I may have caused a short that blew > a fuse (or damaged another component). My fuel pump is no longer > getting power (it does work when jumpered). > > I have ordered a new inertia switch. Until it comes, I wanted to pose > this question to the list: is it possible for a clutzy inertia switch > bypass cause this type of short? > > The wiring diagram shows that one of the inertia switch leads goes to > ground, so a short may be possible. In my case all the fuses seem to > have survived, so now I am looking into the possibility that I damaged a > relay. > > Moral of the story: screwing around with one part in an electrical > system affects others. Take seriously any work on your electrical > system, even simple stuff. > > - Mike Substelny > VIN 01280, 7 years ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________
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