To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderator@xxxxxxxxxxx To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews ------------------------------------------------------------------------ There are 12 messages in this issue. Topics in this digest: 1. Re: Re: Front coil springs From: jrc2905@xxxxxxx 2. Re: Re: Tuned it up last year. From: Robert Brandys <BobB@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 3. Clutch Slave/Master Cylinder Cross Refrence From: "shainbrannan" <shain@xxxxxxxxxxxx> 4. Re: Propane/Freon From: jrc2905@xxxxxxx 5. Re: Re: Front coil springs From: Steve Stankiewicz <protodelorean@xxxxxxxxx> 6. Re: Clackety clackety clackety? From: "Patrick Cowan" <LilRedCivic@xxxxxxxxxx> 7. Re: Re: Front coil springs From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe@xxxxxxx> 8. Re: Intermittent wackiness From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe@xxxxxxx> 9. transaxle info From: "sml5150" <sk1pper@xxxxxxxxxxx> 10. Re: Turns over, doesn't start. From: "Walter Coe" <Whalt@xxxxxxx> 11. Spring Social this weekend... From: "Dan RC30" <Danrc30@xxxxxxxxxxx> 12. A/C conversion From: Soma576@xxxxxxx ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 1 Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 10:54:49 EDT From: jrc2905@xxxxxxx Subject: Re: Re: Front coil springs I took the front springs off my self, it is a pain if you do not have the right spring compressor. I know because the spring left go as i was carrying it and my fingers got stuck on the side which still had the compression rod on it. I finally released the tension and was amazed how compressed a finger can get. You would have thought that I had learned something, I took the rear axles and wheel assembly off my D. The shock was just hanging in the air, I unscrewed the lock nuts a the top thinking it was a standard strut and the shock shot off like a rocket, am very glad my foot was not there, I sat there asking myself how dumb am I. So I plan to buy the best spring compressor on the market before I and take all the safety precautions before I work with springs again. ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 2 Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 08:44:52 -0500 From: Robert Brandys <BobB@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Re: Tuned it up last year. I had a similar problem with my stock D. It ran fine and then when I started it up the next year, it was missing on one cylinder. Turns out that one of the fuel injector corroded over the winter (IN A HEATED GARAGE!) and stopped working. I replace the injector and the car ran fine. Why did this happen? Water in the gas, possibly? Engine was totally heated up before shutdown, so no cylinder condensation. Just an idea to check out. Missing cylinders can screw up vacuum readings to the computer and make it do weird things. I had a cross fire injected engine with a weak vacuum signal -that took me two years to figure out. BOB ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 3 Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 14:21:56 -0000 From: "shainbrannan" <shain@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Clutch Slave/Master Cylinder Cross Refrence I was wondering if someone could give the cross refrence numbers to the clutch slave and master cylinder. The bendix number thats out on the web for the slave cylinder is outdated, and no longer exists. I also tried the master cylinder for a amc spirit, but they no londer exist. Any info would apreciated. - Shain #10140 ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 4 Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 10:32:51 EDT From: jrc2905@xxxxxxx Subject: Re: Propane/Freon The DEP out here in Mass. just put a guy in jail for a number of years because he was illegally selling R12 to auto shops on the black-market. It turned out it was not even R12 but some type of flammable mixture. ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 5 Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 09:29:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Stankiewicz <protodelorean@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Re: Front coil springs First let me say that if you're not experienced in removing coil springs and have the proper tools, I'd recommend finding someone who is. That said, if you must remove the springs yourself, here's a safety tip: Get a short length of chain, the heaviest that will fit through the coils, and padlock. Run the chain through a coil and around the vehicle's frame and use the padlock to lock the chain to itself, making a loop around the frame. While this doesn't completely prevent the spring from moving, it "should" keep it from flying out. I've done a fair number of spring swaps. Even some on cars with suspensions where the springs virtually drop out, but I ALWAYS CHAIN THEM! Good Luck! --- dmcman82 <dmcman73@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > I've removed the front shocks TWICE and also > installed new shorter > shocks. I do have to say this....although it was not > very hard to > do....My heart had never raced so fast in my life. > The spring was a > little clusy and at times it looked like it wanted > to shoot out! ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 6 Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 17:09:23 -0400 From: "Patrick Cowan" <LilRedCivic@xxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Clackety clackety clackety? its most likely not internal then. i was thinking it was related into the top end of the motor ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew" <aos+yahoo@xxxxxxxx> To: <dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 12:08 AM Subject: Re: [DML] Clackety clackety clackety? > On Sun, 21 Apr 2002, Patrick Cowan wrote: > > > did the noise change pitch with idle advancement? > > The noise definitely changed pitch, but did not sound directly > proportional to engine speed. ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 7 Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 16:45:21 -0400 From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe@xxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Re: Front coil springs Steve, I, as well as many other DML readers very much appreciate your candid words concerning your coil spring "survivor" story. It is just another illustration that DeLorean owners should always adhere to a "safety-first" mentality. I realize that most of the guy (gentleman) owners of a DeLorean feel that "sending the D out for repair" is unmanly. Whenever that situation comes up; like removing suspension springs or installing an AC compressor keep in mind that the professionals hire other professionals to handle work they are not equipped to handle. DMC Joe Tech Information, DMC Joe Help Club, & Store "Summer Parts Sale" http://shopping.oraclesmallbusiness.com/dsvstore DeLorean Website Directory www.dmc.tv ----- Original Message ----- From: "dmcman82" <dmcman73@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 1:27 AM Subject: [DML] Re: Front coil springs > I've removed the front shocks TWICE and also installed new shorter > shocks. I do have to say this....although it was not very hard to > do....My heart had never raced so fast in my life. The spring was a > little clusy and at times it looked like it wanted to shoot out ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 8 Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 16:44:01 -0400 From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe@xxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Intermittent wackiness Travis, >From your description it appears that you have the two vacuum lines at the vacuum solenoid canceled backwards. Try reversing the two lines and see if you problem goes away. Also keep in mind that the vacuum solenoid and idle speed motor are both activated by the idle speed micro switch. If this switch is malfunctioning you will have both a high idle and advanced timing condition. You also said: "I hear a hissing coming from the plug that covers the CO adjustment screw ...." The access hole should be plugged, any screw or bolt that blocks the flow of air through this hole will work. A golf tee will also do the job. You also said: "I removed the mixture control unit. Does this mean it's gasket needs to be replaced as well ......." Only if the upper and lower half of the mixture control unit was separated. You also said: "My idle is higher than it should be 1200-1500 RPM and my engine is running too rich. ..........." You will need to correct your high idle problem prior to performing any other fuel system service procedures. DMC Joe Tech Information, DMC Joe Help Club, & Store "Summer Parts Sale" http://shopping.oraclesmallbusiness.com/dsvstore DeLorean Website Directory www.dmc.tv ----- Original Message ----- From: "cdrugly" <tgoodwin@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 9:25 AM Subject: [DML] Intermittent wackiness > Well, I got the new vacuum solenoid in and my problems have > decreased. The cars runs much better, but I still get a bit of > sluggishness in the upper parts of 1st and 2nd gear. > > While I was letting it warm up yesterday, the engine would rev up to > about 5000 RPM for no reason even though the throttle was not > pressed... it just went crazy. The only way to stop it was to cut the > engine. When I decided to take it on the road, I didn't have this > problem anymore. I drove it for a good while and never got it to > happed at a stop or anywhere on the road. > ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 9 Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 22:27:42 -0000 From: "sml5150" <sk1pper@xxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: transaxle info does anyone know out trans' ratios? ive run across a page that gives names/ ratios/ and such for renault transaxles. Maby if someone can match the gears, we can find out the official name/model of out trans. and then maby we can find performance parts. just a thought heres the link: http://www.gt40club.clara.net/technics.htm BTW, i think im going with the g50 or g50/20 6sp. skipper landry skipper@xxxxxxxxxxx ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 10 Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 15:39:18 -0400 From: "Walter Coe" <Whalt@xxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Turns over, doesn't start. Sean, In addition to the other things that people said to check, also check fuse # 7. The lugs on these fuses corrode with age and make hot/intermittent connections. It's a good idea to replace all of them. You might have already had a meltdown in the fuse block. Walt ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 11 Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 13:55:01 -1000 From: "Dan RC30" <Danrc30@xxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Spring Social this weekend... There is a small change in the schedule for Friday night. 7pm: Meet in the Hotel Foyer for tech session with Rob Grady. 8pm: Dinner at the Italian restaurant. This will give people a little more time to get there and get situated before everything starts. Also, I picked up the trophies today. They are very nice so shine up your cars!!! They feature a walnut bass, polished metal victory cup (gold color), polished metal eagles (also gold color), and a polished gold color steering wheel emblem on top inside a set of wings. Good luck to all who are entering! See you Friday night!!! ---Dan _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 12 Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 20:07:45 EDT From: Soma576@xxxxxxx Subject: A/C conversion Hello All, here are the results (so far) of my A/C conversion to 134a. yesterday i brought my car in to the shop who was to do my work. we put it on a lift and checked for neon dye on my A/C system. we found a couple of tiny spots but nothing very troubling. most of it was pretty sketchy and the tech i was working with said he didn't think it would be a problem. we then brought the car down and temporarily filled the system with one pound of R-134a with dye for testing purposes. we let the car sit for a little while then came back to it and got it up on the lift again. we then checked for leaks again and we couldn't find anything new. it was getting late so we called it a day. now this afternoon we were at it again and decided to try to evacuate the system out and vacuum it and try to fill it with 134a. we hooked the machine up and let it vacuum for about 105 minutes. the tech (who has done many conversions) said the trick to doing an older car is to vacuum it for a long time to make sure you get EVERYTHING out of the system. as we were finishing vacuuming, the tech said that the car was holding vacuum extremely well, he said it was on the lines of an almost perfect system. after that we filled the system up with R-134a and more dye to the full 2.5lb capacity. we let the car idle with the A/C on for about half an hour. we came back to the car and put a thermometer in the vent - we were running at about 37.4 degrees F!! we finished topping it up with the engine running to help pull freon into the system. so far so good - the system seems to be working fine and my compressor is cyling about every 20 seconds. in a couple of weeks i'm going to bring my car back for a leak test and see if anything is leaking. and if not.... well i'll just keep my fingers crossed! i will post another update in a couple weeks. Later, Andy Soma576@xxxxxxx 1982 DeLorean DMC-12 VIN#11596 Fargo, ND 58102 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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