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There are 25 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Re: Key blanks
From: DMCVegas@xxxxxxxx
2. Re: A/C compresser
From: RFLRKV@xxxxxx
3. Re: Key blanks
From: Lee <immerse@xxxxxxxxxxx>
4. Re: How the DeLorean's Power Locks Work.
From: Martin Gutkowski <webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
5. Re: "worlds fastest Delorean"
From: sand131@xxxxxxx
6. Is this a DMC?
From: senatorpack@xxxxxx
7. Graceland fun facts
From: kkoncelik@xxxxxxx
8. tempurature and malfunctioning tach
From: "Cameron Putsch" <putsch.1@xxxxxxx>
9. Re: "worlds fastest Delorean"
From: rnx2000@xxxxxxxxxxx
10. Re: The Resurrection of Vixen Continues...
From: jtrealty@xxxxxxxxxxx
11. Re: How the DeLorean's Power Locks Work.
From: jtrealty@xxxxxxxxxxx
12. Re: Squeeling sound from clutch
From: dherv10@xxxxxxx
13. Re: How the DeLorean's Power Locks Work.
From: dherv10@xxxxxxx
14. Re: Finicky Windows
From: dherv10@xxxxxxx
15. New Delorean Owner
From: "Bastiaan Olij" <mux@xxxxxx>
16. RE: Key blanks
From: "Buckner, William" <William.Buckner@xxxxxxxxxx>
17. DeLoreans in Los Angeles
From: Grigor Maksudyan <delorean66@xxxxxxxxx>
18. What I don't understand about the Central Door Locking
From: Sacha Prins <sacha@xxxxxxxxx>
19. Re: Key blanks
From: dherv10@xxxxxxx
20. Clutch line
From: johndmc57@xxxxxxxxx
21. Brake squeal
From: johndmc57@xxxxxxxxx
22. A couple of things
From: "Derrick Viane" <clarion9375r@xxxxxxxxxxx>
23. Re:Different door guides (was:Trapped in a DeLorean?)
From: deloreanernst@xxxxxxx
24. Hood
From: "Stian Birkeland" <delorean@xxxxxxxxx>
25. RE: Found Window Stickers
From: "Jack Singer" <jsinger@xxxxxxx>
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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 00:41:07 -0000
From: DMCVegas@xxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Key blanks
I had an extra key made at a Wal Mart store last year. The Key brand
said "Axxess +" Key type was #51. The key type that it was copied
from was an ilco, # X239 RV4. I know that others have had difficulty
with getting keys made at store like it, but the new key from Wal
Mart actullay turns much easier in my locks than my old one.
-Robert
vin 6585
--- In dmcnews@xxxx, johndmc57@xxxx wrote:
> Does anyone know what key blank I need to have some extra keys
made.I
> only have one now. Also does anyone know what I can use for a
> replacement rubber boot for the ball joints.
> John
> jrc2905@xxxx
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 18:14:36 EDT
From: RFLRKV@xxxxxx
Subject: Re: A/C compresser
A sanyo compressor is the right brand. SD-510,model# 8494.
Yes the 'lower' tube does a couple of 90's to head 'forward.
Richard in San Diego
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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 15:29:56 -0700
From: Lee <immerse@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Key blanks
johndmc57@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
> Does anyone know what key blank I need to have some extra keys made.I
> only have one now. Also does anyone know what I can use for a
> replacement rubber boot for the ball joints.
> John
reply:
You can get DMC logo key blanks from DMC Houston or try the manufacture
- at: Lee <immerse@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Lee
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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 00:17:05 +0100
From: Martin Gutkowski <webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: How the DeLorean's Power Locks Work.
Central locking is now standard on almost all european cars, though remote
central locking is also common. Sounds like a standard afer-market alarm with
remote door lock module will work fine on a DeLorean (fitted one to my
Citroen some time ago)
Martin
Jim Reeve wrote:
>
> To my knoledge, [central locking] was a fairly popular fad in the '80s,
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 19:15:28 EDT
From: sand131@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: "worlds fastest Delorean"
Spring of 1988 Delorean World has a reprint of the Sports Car Illustrated
article. It only says a Northern Calif. owner. But it is an awesome machine.
I also would like to revisit it after 12 years.
Ralph VIN 1606
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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 19:20:50 EDT
From: senatorpack@xxxxxx
Subject: Is this a DMC?
Hi everyone,
I was looking for some parts on ebay and I saw this picture. Is that a
DeLorean on the left behind the Maserati?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cgi/ebayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=592425949&r=
0&t=0
Sincerely,
Michael Pack
DOA 4743
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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 20:04:52 EDT
From: kkoncelik@xxxxxxx
Subject: Graceland fun facts
I just received the hotel list and true to form as happened in the Cleveland
Show approximately half of those registered are new to the show
to be exact 42% are1st time.
Thank you
Ken
<A HREF="" href="http://deloreancarshow.com">http://deloreancarshow.com">DeLoreancarshow.com</A>
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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 20:09:10 +0200
From: "Cameron Putsch" <putsch.1@xxxxxxx>
Subject: tempurature and malfunctioning tach
I am going to look at an 82 dmc with 27k on it which is a strait, clean, turnkey car, however the tach is said to work half the time and the water temp stays at 200 degrees. What do you all think it would take to fix the tach(money and time wise too) and what do you think about the temp, is this a scary thing on a stock D or is this not that bad and would be fine with a lower temp fan switch and thermostat(perhaps the thermostat is stuck half open? Other than that I have to beleive the car is exactly as it should be.
Thanks, Casey at putsch.1@xxxxxxx
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Message: 9
Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 00:33:40 -0000
From: rnx2000@xxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: "worlds fastest Delorean"
The car was involved in a front end collision some time ago. Efforts
were made to rebuild it, but the car has been placed onto the back
burner for some time.
If you want to see the car you are not far off. Go to the d services
part of entermyworld.com. Second picture down upperleft hand corner
you can see whats left of the car.
--- In dmcnews@xxxx, delorean502@xxxx wrote:
> Does anyone know of who owns the self proclaimed "Worlds Fastest
> Delorean" that has a Buick V6 with twin turbos created by Gale
Banks
> back in the '80s? There is an article about it on
> www.entermyworld.com
>
> Is this car still around? They said that it pumped out 500+
> horsepower and could get almost 700HP with the proper tuning.
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Message: 10
Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 02:36:02 -0000
From: jtrealty@xxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: The Resurrection of Vixen Continues...
If you do find a welder who has experience with stainless he should
also be competant in the use of high frequency TIG. This is the only
way to do this work without exessive heat build-up and distortion.
This repair can be done. I had a shop where we built S/S elevater
doors, frames, and cabs. Not only do you have to weld parts together
but there are the inevitable repairs from shop mistakes, dings, and
field screw-ups. I had a welder that could weld a 2x4 to a brick or at
least he claimed! My point is that a GOOD welder can do minor miracles
so try to find a shop that works on kitchen equipment or hollow metal
in your area and has a Tig welder that doesn't look like Noah might
have used it! You might try a local welding supply, they usually know
which shops are doing good work. As for the X pattern get a piece of
2x6 about 6" long, sand it smooth and flat and use it on the blending
pad and don't use much pressure. On the rear sunshade I use Black
Again and I am happy with the results as it doesn't dry off as fast as
Armor-All. I think you are very persistant and patient to attempt this
project and not get frustrated and stop.Keep going! and good luck!
David Teitelbaum
vin 10757
--- In dmcnews@xxxx, Dave Stragand <dave.stragand@xxxx> wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> On the 9th of June I finally got to do what I've been waiting for
for months
> -- pick up my body panels!
>
> Dave Bauerle was able to do a fantastic job on the RR quarter --
you'd never
> believe the bottom lip of the wheel wheel had been smashed as badly
as it
> was. It looks like a brand new piece.
>
> Unfortunately, the doors had some areas he was not able to repair.
Both
> doors have large nicks on the top, right by the seal. If you look
at the
> doors, you can see how difficult that area is to get to -- the area
is boxed
> by the door frame, and it's too small of an area to get a spoon up
into.
>
> I was planning on scrapping the doors, but someone recommended
having the
> gouges welded in with stainless, then ground down. Anyone ever
attempted
> something like this before? A stainless welder is going to be
stopping by
> my house next week to take a look and give his recommendations.
>
> So, while I waited, I started to slowly sand the many deep scratches
off of
> my hood. I'm starting to get the dreaded "X"... any tips here would
be
> appreciated.
>
> Other than that, I've been doing smallish jobs. Put in FanZilla,
ordered a
> few pieces, prep the rear deck & engine cover for painting...
>
> Speaking of which, since everyone uses semi-flat black and then
Armor-All or
> the like to shine the louvers, I am thinking of trying a semi-gloss
or gloss
> black SATIN finish paint. It should give the same effect without
having to
> Armor-All it all the time. Anyone else ever tried this?
>
> So... things have started moving again. I even have my insurance
agent
> trying to get me listed. Of course, the underwriter is having a fit
for all
> the usual reasons... but IU'm sure we'll squeak it by. Heck, if he
was
> going to insure me for an '87 Lotus Esprit Turbo for $400 a year,
then he
> should be able to do better with a D, right? =)
>
> -Dave
> http://www.ProjectVixen.com <http://www.ProjectVixen.com>
> VIN #05927
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Message: 11
Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 02:43:48 -0000
From: jtrealty@xxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: How the DeLorean's Power Locks Work.
One of the easiest ways to get "trapped" is to slam a badly adjusted
door closed. It isn't like you don't notice it because you probably
have done it many times but sooner or later it will jam. This has
NOTHING to due with Lockzilla. It cannot correct a misadjusted door or
lock. If you buy a Lockzilla to fix this problem you will be very
disappointed. Lockzilla does prevent you from locking the doors if a
door isn't closed all the way but it is not meant to correct this.
David Teitelbaum
vin 10757
--- In dmcnews@xxxx, senatorpack@xxxx wrote:
>
>
> I have the lock solenoids and the central power unit, all from
LockZilla.
> They are faithful and reliable.
> There are significant improvements to the LockZilla versus the
original
> design. One improvement that immediately comes to mind is how the
locks sound
> and how quickly they operate.
>
> As far as anyone unintentionally trapped inside the DeLorean,
I'm sure
> that the people were inside pre production cars, and if they were
actual
> production cars then they didn't have the LockZilla.
>
> Sincerely,
> Michael Pack
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Message: 12
Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 03:41:41 -0000
From: dherv10@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Squeeling sound from clutch
Stian, Naturally what Joe siad is correct about the throw out bearing
noise, Since I'm putting all new parts in my 11004 car I thought some
one might like to see what were talking about, clutch pressure plate
and throw out bearing. It's at the bottom of the engine page on my
site I have posted before and after it's changed will post after. I
will be adding a new catagory soon for Drive Train parts. Sorry for
the in balance of the photo's, but I'm not the greatest web man.
John hervey
http://www.specialtauto.com/engine.htm
--- In dmcnews@xxxx, "Stian Birkeland" <delorean@xxxx> wrote:
> dmcrearHi there,
> Quite recently Ive noticed that the clutch is squeeling when the
clutch pedal is pressed. Not a high pitched sound, more like a low
pitch sound but still annoying. Almost like "something somewhere is
rubbing something"
>
> Last year the clutch fluid was changed with correct spec. I also
upgraded to the stainless braided clutch line. I have no troubles
shifting gears, yet the squeeling sound tells me something isnt quite
right.
>
> What parts do I need? And what causes the #"¤%! sound??
>
> Best wishes :)
>
> Stian Birkeland
> Flekkefjord, Norway
>
> VIN # 06759
>
> Web: http://home.online.no/~stianfb/
>
>
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Message: 13
Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 04:15:53 -0000
From: dherv10@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: How the DeLorean's Power Locks Work.
Jim and group. I to have taken the door lock module out and replaced
the relay's. One step futher I'm going to do is limit the
current/time the relay's contacts can operate. In other words, like a
current limiter/sensor on each leg of the relay to the solenoids. Not
one overated CB for both. If the current is drawn to long or to much
due to a faulty or tired soleniod, instead of the circuit destroying
it's self and blowing diodes and burning the contacts up. It will
mearly cut off or blow a fuse or trip lighter current circuit
breaker. Most people like to up grade the main circuit breaker to
allow more current and not to be bothered with a nuisance of
replacing the circuit breaker. This is one reason they have problems.
We give them to much leeway. I will do just the opposite. By limiting
the time/current, I will give the solonoids just enough time to trip
but no more. If the are slow, it will trip a circuit to cut off the
voltage/current before it hurts anything futher. Then if the door
doesn't open, it's time to look at, rebuild or replace the door
solenoid. I also have a Fix for them in the works for an ease of
operation. Hopes this helps.
John Hervey
http://www.specialtauto.com/
--- In dmcnews@xxxx, "Jim Reeve" <ultra@xxxx> wrote:
> Ok everyone, since not everyone is clear on the function of the
power locks, here is a detailed explanation.
>
.
>
> Jim Reeve
> MNDMC - Minnesota DeLorean Club
> DMC-6960
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Message: 14
Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 04:21:51 -0000
From: dherv10@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Finicky Windows
Frank, Yes, WD40 or a contact cleaner safe for plastics will maby
give you a temporary fix, but I have taken candy fragments out of the
switches, paper, hair and just lots of crud. Yes, You can buy new
switches, and if you do I will buy the old ones. Home of The Fixes.
John hervey
http://www.specialtauto.com/
--- In dmcnews@xxxx, FEHRISMANN@xxxx wrote:
> To whomever can help,
>
> I have an '83 D. I have had it for 2 months. The person I bought
it from
> had it in storage for 5 years. He did start it up twice a year and
i haven't
> had any troubles except with the windows. Whenever I want to raise
or lower
> the windows, I have to keep pushing on/off/on/off until it decides
to go.
> Both windows do exactly the same. Are the switches bad? Are the
motors bad?
> Is it a bad ground? Any ideas? Thanks in advance for your
thoughts.
>
> Frank
> DOA 5823
> VIN 16509
>
>
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Message: 15
Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 09:14:08 +0200
From: "Bastiaan Olij" <mux@xxxxxx>
Subject: New Delorean Owner
Hello everyone,
Since two days I've been the very happy owner of VIN #4597. Seems to be a
very nice car but it does need alot of work so I'll probably be asking all
sorts of irritating questions over the comming month:-)
I've seen some mails the past few days about people getting locked in their
Delorean. This happened to my dad sitting in the passenger seat but for a
different reason. My window system broke the evening after I bought it (yeah
some luck) and I spend a good day of yesterday removing the window mechanism
to find out what was wrong with it. I'm still nog sure, the electric motor
runs find when removed from the mechanism, but attached it just freezes up.
Still no idea why but I haven't had time to look at it further. I've mounted
something on the frame of the door to keep the window up and that will have
to do until I fix the mechanism:-)
As for the door locking. On my driver side it doesn't even work although I
do hear it click. On the passenger side it worked perfectly until I removed
the window mechanism. I did fix one of the, ehm sorry, no idea what their
called (I guess their those solenoids everyone keeps talking about?:-),
anyway, the things that move the rods that open/close the locking mechanism.
It was attached using some plastic bonding things instead of using bolts
like the other ones. So maybe I changed its position a bit or something, I
have no idea. But the doors don't unlock. I need to push one of the rods a
bit to get it unlocked completely.
I think I still have the stock components in. Atleast I haven't found any
evidence of having lockzilla components. Am thinking about changing the
asap.
Sorry about not knowing all the technical names, I've studied electronics,
not car repairs, I have alot to learn:-)
Anyways, hope to learn alot from you guys and maybe be able to give
something back!
Ohyeah, another nice one. The car manufacturing date stamped on the plate
mounted in the door sais august 81, but the guy who made the frame of my
passenger car door has signed it, checked OK september 1981, guess my door
was mounted later <grin>.
Bastiaan Olij
Owner of Vin #4597 build august 1981 since 21 June 2001
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Message: 16
Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 06:38:31 -0400
From: "Buckner, William" <William.Buckner@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: Key blanks
I have a 1982 (vin # 11268.) I just had a key made. It is the combination
door and ignition key. The blank used is a ilco X239. I think they said it
is also used for a Mazda.
Bill Buckner
Instrumentation Supervisor
Electrical and Instrument Dept.
Pfizer, Inc.
Global Manufacturing
Holland, MI Facility
% Phone: 616-392-2375 x-2449
* Fax: 616-392-8267
* Email: william.buckner@xxxxxxxxxx
-----Original Message-----
From: johndmc57@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:johndmc57@xxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 12:40 PM
To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [DML] Key blanks
Does anyone know what key blank I need to have some extra keys made.I
only have one now. Also does anyone know what I can use for a
replacement rubber boot for the ball joints.
John
jrc2905@xxxxxxx
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Message: 17
Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 00:31:26 -0700 (PDT)
From: Grigor Maksudyan <delorean66@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DeLoreans in Los Angeles
I was just wondering if there are any DeLorean owners living in the Los Angeles area. If there are, please e-mail me. Thanks
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Message: 18
Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 13:19:19 +0200
From: Sacha Prins <sacha@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: What I don't understand about the Central Door Locking
Hi,
I pretty much follow the logic behind the central door locking mechanism
of the DeLorean. Together with the parts and workshop manual it's easy
to understand if you have a bit of technical background.
However, the thing I don't understand is the need for a 'lock position
sensor' that disables the whole mechanism when the locks are 'out of
sync'. In other words, why is it so bad when the locks become out of
sync for whatever accidental reason?
Sacha
--
From now on my e-mail address is <sacha@xxxxxxxxx>.
Please update your address book if I'm in it.
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Message: 19
Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 11:39:34 -0000
From: dherv10@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Key blanks
John, The key blanks that I buy or have made are ( x 29 ) ILco. Also
on the key is VO73 made in U.S.A.
John hervey
http://www.specialtauto.com/
--- In dmcnews@xxxx, johndmc57@xxxx wrote:
> Does anyone know what key blank I need to have some extra keys
made.I
> only have one now. Also does anyone know what I can use for a
> replacement rubber boot for the ball joints.
> John
> jrc2905@xxxx
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Message: 20
Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 14:49:03 -0000
From: johndmc57@xxxxxxxxx
Subject: Clutch line
I just replaced the stock plastic clutch line with a stainless
braided line. This is the best upgrade I have done so far. The car
shifts with ease and the clutch works great. I am still amazed that
the OEM part was such a bad design.
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Message: 21
Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 14:52:37 -0000
From: johndmc57@xxxxxxxxx
Subject: Brake squeal
Do anyone have any suggestion on how to get rid of brakes squeal from
the front brakes I have tried all the products for eliminating brake
squeal but I think it is going to take more than a quick fix.
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Message: 22
Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 16:27:35
From: "Derrick Viane" <clarion9375r@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: A couple of things
List,
I have tried searching the back issues before coming here so as not
bring up old subjects, but I have not had any luck.
1st The infamous hot start problem
If I start the car from cold it usually starts fine but if I turn it off and
come back like 30min later it takes forever to start. I have replaced the
accumulator to no avail. I had heard it might be the check valve.
I had found a post from Stian Birkeland on his hot start problem which is
exactly what I am going through, but he never responded.
2nd The heater/AC blower
The blower just won't come on.
Thank you,
Derrick Viane
Experience is not what happens to you; It is what you do with what happens
to you.
Vin#1657
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Message: 23
Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 16:05:44 EDT
From: deloreanernst@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re:Different door guides (was:Trapped in a DeLorean?)
In a message dated 6/22/01 3:37:50 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
ian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx writes:
> I wanted to install door guides on my early car vin.00780 and bought a set
> off Ebay. When I tried to install them the door latch, screw points, and
> door body all seemed different? Are the early/later doors different? Are
> there door guides for the early doors?
>
>
My late car ('82) is supposed to have them from the factory but doesn't. Go
figure. But the doors latch just fine. There ARE several types of guides.
There are plastic for later D's and stainless steel for earlier ones. (I
think there are three types... someone else can correct me, no doubt) Rob
Grady told me I needed the "late '81" door guides on mine, but since I've
never had a problem, I haven't done it yet. The extra weight from adding the
heavy s.s. guides will reportedly require a torsion bar adjustment to
compensate.
-Wayne A. Ernst
DMCTech Group
vin 11174
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Message: 24
Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 22:18:35 +0200
From: "Stian Birkeland" <delorean@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Hood
Hello all,
Im looking for a hood type 2 (the one with grooves on each side), alternatively hood type 1 (gasflap and grooves)
In return you can get a brand new type 3 hood (completely flat) and money in between.
Please email me privately.
Best wishes :)
Stian Birkeland
Floyen Terrasse 20C
N-4400 Flekkefjord
Norway
VIN # 06759
Web: http://home.online.no/~stianfb/
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Message: 25
Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 17:40:17 -0400
From: "Jack Singer" <jsinger@xxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: Found Window Stickers
I recently recieved origional window stickers in new condition for Vin #'s
4117 & 4521. If you are on the list please contact me directly.
Jack.
5823
jsinger@xxxxxxx
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