Before posting messages or replies, see the posting policy rules at: www.dmcnews.com/Admin/rules.html To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderator@xxxxxxxxxxx ------------------------------------------------------------------------ There are 6 messages in this issue. Topics in this digest: 1. Re: A/c fixes From: gus@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 2. Re: e-bay cars (was DMC Prices) From: gus@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 3. Re: e-bay cars (was DMC Prices) From: graves_14@xxxxxxxxxxx 4. Re: Nationality of DeLorean From: theshovel1224@xxxxxxxxx 5. Re: mufflers From: mark@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 6. Re: Nationality of DeLorean From: DMCVegas@xxxxxxxx ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 1 Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 19:58:42 -0000 From: gus@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: A/c fixes Yes, you could convert to R134. Or you could use one of the R-12 substitutes, like R-406A (http://www.autofrost.com). However, I don't think either of these will be cheaper than fixing your current system. It all depends on why your current system lost pressure. If you need a new compressor as I did recently, they're "only" $250 from usadmc.com. (I say "only" because this *is* allot of money, but cheap for an A/C compressor.) You may have a burst hose if it was rubbing the body just right; the hoses are LONG and about $175 each. If you have a damaged evaporator or condenser, those are $400 - $500, ouch. And you really should replace the accumulator/dryer ($170) if the system was open to the atmosphere for a long period. I got these prices online: http://www.usadmc.com/dmcstore/ViewDir.asp?PageID=83 So if you must replace ALL of that, then you may as well convert all the way. But trying to adapt the current system to R134 will likely give unsatisfactory results. It runs at a higher pressure and is therefore less efficient, but should get just as cold. I agree that R-12 is not cheap like it was 10 years ago, but R-134 ain't free, either. All A/C shops should be able to find leaks without using can after can of Freon (they're not allowed, right?) I can check when I get home, but I believe that my recent A/C repair done by a Delorean specialist was fairly cheap, $500-600 with a new compressor and Freon charge. Gus Schlachter Austin, TX 4695 --- In dmcnews@xxxx, "Joseph Molino" <foxmul@xxxx> wrote: > > I need to fix my a/c. I am having a hard time finding r-12 and was wondering if anyone knows of the conversion kit to change to R-134? What should I do? If I stay with r-12 and there is a leak, I could be out some serious cash. but switching to r-134 sounds like the right thing to do. any drawbacks. > > Joseph > vin 2850 ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 20:23:28 -0000 From: gus@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: e-bay cars (was DMC Prices) I essentially bought my car on eBay. I had been looking for quite some time, and was interested in a particular car that I'd seen other places (Hemmings, online classifieds, etc.) that was in Houston. This was the most attractive feature of the car, since Houston is only a 2-3 hour drive (and wasn't underwater at the time, LOL). I later found this "USADMC-something" company is Houston that could vouch for the car, saying it was well worn (almost 100,000 miles) but otherwise well cared for. I noticed that every time I found a new listing for this car, the price went down. It was listed in various places for weeks if not months when it finally showed up on eBay...and got no bids. At that point I could stand it no longer and called the guy and asked if he'd take his minimum bid price of $12,500, and he agreed. Was I happy? Darn tootin! I was thrilled to have a DMC! There were a few things that bugged me, though, like the sellers assertion that the windows had been intentionally disabled because his forearm hit the switches while shifting. That may have been true, but it was also true that one was off the track and both regulators were blown. :-( There were other things, too, but most were either typical D problems or storage-related. I can't be too unhappy; I had USADMC fix just about everything that needed it, and ended up spending somewhere around that magic $20k mark total. All in all a good deal. I don't think I would buy a second DMC from eBay unless I knew the seller personally or could inspect the car prior to the sale (or wanted a project car cheap, ha ha ha). Gus Schlachter Austin, TX 4695 --- In dmcnews@xxxx, "Michael C. Babb" <michael@xxxx> wrote: > Just for another side of the issue. I sold my DeLorean this past > December after listing it on e-bay. The auction never went all of > the way through as I got a side offer and decided to not chance > seeing the auction all of the way through... > I would personally be interested in hearing other people's accounts > of either buying or selling DeLorean's through e-bay... > Michael C. Babb > Former VIN 3472 :) ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 3 Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 19:46:26 -0000 From: graves_14@xxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: e-bay cars (was DMC Prices) Glad to see your still visiting the list Michael! Buying the car on Ebay has picked me up a few additional WOWs. For everyone else who doesn't know the story, I bought the D from Michael sight unseen off the web. The experience was a little strange, since I was sending a rather large cashiers check to someone I don't know. The best thing Michael did was the extensive photo gallery he set up on his website. Almost every possible angle was shown, and that gave me a feeling of actually inspecting the car in person. 100 photos were good enough for me! He was also very honest about any problems or blemishes. The car was exactly as described, which made me a very happy buyer. The additional close-up photos of the one or two areas where the practically unnoticeable blemishes were was very reassuring. I wouldn't have any problem purchasing another vehicle if it was well documented and photographed. Tyler Current #3472 snip > Just for another side of the issue. I sold my DeLorean this past December snip > after listing it on e-bay. > Michael C. Babb > Former VIN 3472 :) ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 4 Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 19:56:21 -0000 From: theshovel1224@xxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: Nationality of DeLorean As far as I know, JZD is American. DeLorean Motor Company was an American car company, the headquarters were in a high rise on Park Avenue in NYC. DeLorean Motor Cars Ltd. was the production subsidiary of DMC that was in Dunmurry to build the cars. Most most (except for the 17xxx vins) were manufactured for the American market. I would say that the DeLorean is a very American car John Yeoman ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 5 Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 20:21:05 -0000 From: mark@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: mufflers Willie and the Group. You may have already read message # 17568 that mentions using a Flowmaster aftermarket exhaust. And the problems associated with it. It also mentions perhaps contacting Rob Grady of www.pjgrady.com and see where he got his. He doesn't give any info regarding an aftermarket exhaust on the web site. I am happy with my stainless steel stock exhaust. Plus, I have spent more than enough on my DeLorean. Will be writing something soon about my engine removal and conversion to an even firing 3.0 Liter engine block mated to the DeLorean stock heads, intake, and crank case cover. I have put 500 miles on this set up since I got it back from the mechanic. Mark R. Vanyo VIN # 02261 Lic OUTATYM Seattle, Washington --- In dmcnews@xxxx, wmack <wmack@xxxx> wrote: > Does anyone know where i can get a performance muffler for a delorean? or a > cross referenced performance muffler? > > > Thanks > Willie > vin 5043 ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 6 Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 20:09:16 -0000 From: DMCVegas@xxxxxxxx Subject: Re: Nationality of DeLorean 1. Technicly from a bussiness standpoint, the DeLorean is an American car. After all, Nissans are made in the Tennessee, yet we still labeled them as imports. And Dodge trucks are built in Mexico, but we call them Domestic. So from a bussiness standpoint, the DeLorean is an American car, yes. But based upon where it's built at, that's a differant story. It's built by Irish workers in Northern Ireland. But Northern Ireland is a part of the UK. So this is up to your own interpritation. Most folks say Irish. but some do say British. On the flip side, I've only heared it ever called a British Car by people who are trying to sell one (I guess they figure Britsh means higher price, I don't know). But like I said, it's up to you. Myself, I like others consider the car to be of Irish origin. It makes most people do a double take, and it's out of pride. 2. No, John Z. De Lorean is not French. If I remember correctly, his father is from Rumania. JZD's birth name is "Delorean". While working at GM he changed the layout of his name to "De Lorean". Some people criticized this move, and blamed it on his new 'California Influence'. I believe it is the book "Dream Maker" by Ivan Fallon and James Srodes the makes a notation that "De Lorean" is a French spelling of his name. That's where the confusion about his French origin comes from. -Robert vin 6585 --- In dmcnews@xxxx, Grigor Maksudyan <delorean66@xxxx> wrote: <SNIP> >...But what is the true nationality of the car? > > 2) I know that John Z. DeLorean was born in Detroit, Michigan. But I heard from many people that he is actually French. Is this true? <SNIP> ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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