Before posting messages or replies, see the posting policy rules at: www.dmcnews.com/Admin/rules.html To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderator@xxxxxxxxxxx ------------------------------------------------------------------------ There are 9 messages in this issue. Topics in this digest: 1. Re: Re: No Heat? From: njp548@xxxxxxx 2. Re: Funny stuff! From: RJRavalli@xxxxxxx 3. Fascia Paint From: senatorpack@xxxxxx 4. Re: Alternator Question! From: jtrealty@xxxxxxxxxxx 5. Re: Fuel tank cleaning/removal From: jtrealty@xxxxxxxxxxx 6. Re: Molded body panels and applying them to SS door frames. From: CBL302@xxxxxxx 7. Re: interior trim removal From: Darryl Tinnerstet <darryl@xxxxxxxxxxxx> 8. Re: Fuel tank cleaning/removal From: srubano@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 9. movie From: "Ryan Schooling" <fallguy_one@xxxxxxxxxxx> ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 1 Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 21:14:56 EST From: njp548@xxxxxxx Subject: Re: Re: No Heat? I didn't know that when the vacuum was applied to the water valve that it would close it. I thought that it was off until the vacuum line turned it on. Learn new things everyday I suppose :). Sorry if I confused anyone. Later, Nick 1852 <A HREF="Http://members.aol.com/njp548">Http://members.aol.com/njp548</A> ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 21:16:02 EST From: RJRavalli@xxxxxxx Subject: Re: Funny stuff! I have to agree...there seems to be some unnecessary junk talk on the list lately (although I don't read every message). Personally, I have been nothing but satisfied with the help I have received from the DeLorean community on the DML. Everyone, especially Dave S., has been very kind and extremly informative and helpful (and that's alot in dealing with me, seeing that I don't know jack about D's and am still learning.) In fact, people make you feel like you're part of a family here, which really feels great! I just hope I can pay all you guys back by helping promote the DML and the DeLorean in general in my local area. Keep up the great work guys, Richard (Driving a D around the streets of Modesto as often as I can) ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 3 Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 22:23:08 EST From: senatorpack@xxxxxx Subject: Fascia Paint Anyone have any tips on DeLorean Fascia refinishing, straightening and painting? ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 4 Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 03:36:15 -0000 From: jtrealty@xxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: Alternator Question! On most cars the alternater is sized to cover the electric rear defogger plus about 50% more thats how much of a load it is. The alternater is not expected to cover the entire load of the vehicle, the battery is meant to cover some of the peak load. The logic of this is that peak load is not continuos load so after peak load subsides the alternater can recharge the battery. The worst case load is nightime, hot humid with light drizzle because the wipers, lights, defrost a/c, rear defogger is on. Under most conditions that doesn't happen too often. On most cars (not Deloreans) the rear defogger is shut off by a timer to keep it from running constantly. Maybe that is a good area to improve, adding a timer to the defogger instead of increasing the alternater. The origional Ducy was way undersized which caused many of the origional problems but the motorola is a better match. Be careful in changing the pulley sizes. In some cases it is possible to overspeed the alternater at high engine rpm's and cause the rotor to explode, they are only rated to spin so fast you know. David Teitelbaum vin 10757 --- In dmcnews@xxxx, dherv10@xxxx wrote: > Scott, Your correct that the car will only take what it needs as long > as the source can deliver. My builder told me that he test at 2000 ( > Factory 3000 ) rpm, 100amp fixed load, ( factory 80 amp load )and he Fans= 28 to 30amps > > ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 5 Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 03:48:41 -0000 From: jtrealty@xxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: Fuel tank cleaning/removal If the tank is not too dirty you can wipe it out without removing it from the car. It is not easy to remove and hard to replace. With the fuel sender and fuel pump removed suck out all of the gas and air it out. Remove the fuel pickup and baffle and if you have a long skinny arm and a stick with a rag on the end you should be able to do a good job. If the residue is sticky or there is a lot of sludge then the tank should be taken out to a shop. Remove the lower plate and stand on the tank with your foot and with steady pressure at the rear downward it will come out. To remove the baffle there is a nut on a stud attached to the bottom of the tank. Be gentle or you can break the stud loose. The baffle has to be partialy disassembled to remove and then by bending it and pulling through the fuel pump hole. It can be left inside while the tank is cleaned if you can't figure it out. Don't forget to flush the lines and replace the fuel filter. Unless the fuel distributer is causing a problem don't replace it. David Teitelbaum vin 10757 -- In dmcnews@xxxx, Delorean17@xxxx wrote: > Hello List, > I am replacing my fuel distributor and cleaning the injectors etc but I > David ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 6 Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 04:24:29 -0000 From: CBL302@xxxxxxx Subject: Re: Molded body panels and applying them to SS door frames. If you have damaged doors the Doors CAN Be Skinned(I have done it)or you can pick up damaged doors cheap enough,(with just skin damage)and sell the virgin doors,to recoupe the costs,and then apply the fiberglass skins on the Stainless Steel door frames. Claude 000570 --- In dmcnews@xxxx, "Jack & Virginia Stiefel" <stiefel@xxxx> wrote: > what about doors? Those would still have to be painted, and I would imagine > that a painted door next to a painted plastic or fiberglass panel might look > obviously different... I may be wrong. > > Jack & Virginia Stiefel > '81 DeLorean Vin 03461 August 1981 Build NYS Lic: 1981 DMC > '97 Red BMW Z3 Convertible 2.8 6 Cyl -- not the baby 4 > '99 Ford Expedition Eddie Bauer Edition > '01 Black PT Cruiser Limited w/ Flames > ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 7 Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 20:44:26 -0700 From: Darryl Tinnerstet <darryl@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: interior trim removal John, you were doing fine until you said to pop the panel over the door pull. I would never recommend that due to the damage inexperienced owners may cause. Especially when all you have to do is stick a 10mm socket down through where the escutcheon trim was (the piece around the lock & latch buttons) and remove the two bolts that hold the door pull bracket on. Its relatively simple and a lot less stress on the panel. -- Darryl Tinnerstet Specialty Automotive McCleary, WA ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 8 Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 04:51:38 -0000 From: srubano@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: Fuel tank cleaning/removal You can get the tank out by working it from the back of the tank out first (the narrow end). The front of the tank (wider part) is wedged in and has a lip under it (where the tank shield sits on). Remove the coolant lines, don't spread them apart. They are made of aluminum and can/will fracture if bent. The rear of the tank has to go down first then you need the slide the tank out a little for the front of the tank to clear that lip. I did it just by pounding the top of the tank with the palm of my hand. Try not to use anything sharp to pry the tank out with, you could puncture the plastic tank. You don't really have to remove the tank to clean it out. Go to your local auto store and get a gas pump and pump the rest of the fuel out and then go to Home Depot and get a can of Acetone and some rubber chemical resistive gloves. Use the Acetone on a rag and wipe the tank out, your arm can fit into the fuel pump opening. VERY IMPORTANT: Make sure you wear the chemical resistive gloves because your skin will absorb the acetone and make you very ill...absorb enough of it and it can cause blood poisoning. To remove the fuel baffle it's fairly simple. Remove the one nut that is on the stud in the tank very carefully. That will release the fuel baffle. To get it out of there you'll need to remove the wire retainers remove the plastic baffle bottom (snaps off) and squeeze the plastic baffle together to get it through the fuel pump opening. While you have it out, inspect the Fuel pump screen, if there are any tears in it replace it. Allot of cars didn't come with the baffle bottom so if you don't have one, now's a good time to order one and install it. It keeps water and debris from the pump screen. It helps if you have the shop manual. Hope this helped. Steve --- In dmcnews@xxxx, Delorean17@xxxx wrote: > Hello List, > I am replacing my fuel distributor and cleaning the injectors etc but I > have not started the car yet. Since my car sat I would like to pull the tank > out and clean it. How do I go about cleaning it? I removed the pump, and > the tank really doesnt look that bad inside but the gas has a orange/yellow > tint to it with a few small particles on the bottom of the tank. I will also > be replacing some of the fuel hoses running to the back. does the tank need > to be professionally cleaned? How do I go about removing some of the > components inside the tank? any help would be greatly appreciated. > I have the tank shield removed but I can not get the tank to come out. > The fuel pump and filler line is removed and the tank is empty. any ideas? > I've tried kicking it out from the top but it wont move an inch. > > Thanks list > David ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 9 Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 05:25:23 -0000 From: "Ryan Schooling" <fallguy_one@xxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: movie I hope I'm not starting a rumor flying thread here but here goes. On ebay someone is selling their D and with it they are selling a whole ton of DMC memrobillia and one of the items is a t-shirt for the delorean movie Room 501(if memory serves) Whats this all about where can I get a copy? _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________
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