Before posting messages or replies, see the posting policy rules at: www.dmcnews.com/Admin/rules.html To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderator@xxxxxxxxxxx ------------------------------------------------------------------------ There are 7 messages in this issue. Topics in this digest: 1. Re: Found D 4 Sale....question? From: "Steve Rubano" <srubano@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> 2. Re: Found D 4 Sale....question? From: "Walter" <Whalt@xxxxxxx> 3. Re: Found D 4 Sale....question? From: RJRavalli@xxxxxxx 4. re: Binnacle Lens Needed From: David Cox <dmcox@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> 5. Deloreans For Sale From: "Scott Duke" <s1lvrdo@xxxxxxxxxxx> 6. Re: Found D 4 Sale....question? From: "ian" <ian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 7. Holiday Greeting From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe@xxxxxxx> ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 1 Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 19:04:07 -0000 From: "Steve Rubano" <srubano@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Found D 4 Sale....question? If the alternator is dead along with the battery, he might be able to jump start it and get it to run but the engine may stall or not run properly (and possibly mistaking the problem as a serious one) due to that the battery dosen't have a strong charge and the alternator not supplying any voltage. I don't suggest you leave the jumpers between the two cars connected after you get it running to test the electrical on the D since that will put the alternator on the other car under a higher load than it might be able to handle! The only way to go here if you don't want to buy an alternator, assuming the battery is good and will hold a charge, is get the battery charged at a local garage to it's full capacity. That should give you enough juice to start it, let it run, test the electrical (windows, door locks, etc) and possibly drive it around the block. Steve --- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxx, "jtrealty@xxxx " <jtrealty@xxxx> wrote: > Don't worry about the alternater, just get the engine started, yes you > can jump start it. Make sure you have coolant and oil pressure, try > the clutch and see if you can shift into all gears and check the > service and parking brake. Try the electrical system, windows, door > locks, mirrors, lights, and the engine should idle smooth without > hesitation. Inspect all of the glass carefully. Figure on spending in > the area of $5,000 depending on how lucky and how fussy you are about > the car. Figure a clutch, Zillas, interior parts, battery, tires, > shocks, c-v boots, radiator, water pump, hoses, rebuild brakes, door > struts, coolant bottle, change-out of all fluids, clutch hose, fuel > filter, tune-up. Depending on how much you can do yourself will affect > this estimite but for approx $15,000 it sounds like you will have a > nice car. > David Teitelbaum > vin 10757 > > > - > -- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxx, bigbenb84@xxxx wrote: > > > > Hey everybody, > > There has been a DeLorean for sale in my area (Pensacola, FL.) > since ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 2 Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 14:16:58 -0500 From: "Walter" <Whalt@xxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Found D 4 Sale....question? Ben, So far everyone has given you some good advice, but I suggest a different strategy. Don't do a thing to make the car run except turning the ignition key. If you try to fix the car up before you buy it, then the price will go up accordingly. Be a consumer and not a mechanic when you negotiate a price. If the owner cared enough to get a better price for his car, then he would keep it in running condition and not abandon it on some used car lot. I would make an offer based on the fact that the car is not in running condition and that it will (or may) take a considerable investment to make the it run. If the guy wants more, then ask HIM to make it roadworthy first. It is interesting that the car would have such high mileage. 117K? That's a lot for a Delorean. If the car was able to be driven this many miles, then it must have had extensive work done to fix most of the major Delorean specific problems over this much time. It is also interesting that the body is in such good condition. It sounds like it was owned by someone who really took care of the car -- especially to get such high mileage out of it. It sounds more likely to me that the car has only 17K miles on it. You might try to find out the history on the car. I checked Carfax, and it has no data available on VIN SCEDT26T0BD002144 (This is the correct VIN for #2144) It is typical for Carfax to not have data on cars depending on where and when the vehicle has been registered. Florida is very good about getting data into Carfax, so since it's not listed, I'm suspicious that it is not a Florida car. Perhaps it came from a nearby state since Pensacola is near the border. Is there a license plate on the car? Are there any inspection stickers in the windshield? Are there any papers in the car that give some history? Be sure to check in the hidden compartment behind the driver's seat. You will need the ignition key to unlock it. There is no telling what you may find. Hope this helps, Walt Tampa, FL ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 3 Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 15:46:15 EST From: RJRavalli@xxxxxxx Subject: Re: Found D 4 Sale....question? Ben, I don't know alot about how to get the thing running, etc., but it doesn't sound like it would be that expensive to get it into running condition, assuming everything else with the engine is decent. Although I'm not an expert on pricing, $14.5 might be a bit too much, but $10k sounds about right. I only say this because I recently bought a high mileage DeLorean for 8k, but it needs alot of interior and some other work. But if the interior on the one you're looking at is pretty good, then I would say 10k for it is not bad, and just fix other stuff as it appears. I would make sure to check if the radio and the air work. If they both do then 10k would be a good deal. But again, I'm not an expert so I may be mistaken on this either way. Just wanted to throw my two cents in, :) Richard ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 4 Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 14:45:06 -0800 (PST) From: David Cox <dmcox@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: re: Binnacle Lens Needed >The one on my D now has what looks to be splattered >super glue. The glue probably melted the plexi a >little before it hardened making it impossible to fix Before you give up completely on that plastic, take a look at some of the plastic modeling web sites (try www.finescale.com as a starting point). A common problem for aircraft models is scratches in the clear canopy pieces. These can be sanded out - modeling sandpaper is available in grits of 1200, 2400, and even higher, IIRC. I've never actually done this myself, I just vacuform a replacement canopy, but maybe one of the modeling sites will have some tips and techniques for you. I do know that you can remove all but the deepest scratches this way. If the melt spots on your plexi aren't too deep (and they should be fairly shallow), you may be able to recover your current plexi. Of course, you'll still have to figure out how to remove it... Dave vin 16367 ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 5 Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 16:41:10 -0500 From: "Scott Duke" <s1lvrdo@xxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Deloreans For Sale Hello fellow DML'rs , I have found a cuple D's for sale in my area. I live in Greenville NC but came home to Franklin VA for the holidays and picked up a trader. The first says 1981 "like new, 17k miles 5spd, all upgrades, looks and runs like new, always garaged $22,000 YORKTOWN the second is also an 81'"10k miles like new, stock stereo, black leather, kept indoors, well maintained $19,900 NORFOLK VA This one has the side stripes on the lower half judging by the pics. For phone numbers email me privatley at s1lvrdo(AT)hotmail.com ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 6 Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2000 07:04:30 +0800 From: "ian" <ian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Found D 4 Sale....question? Hi Ben, My advice ... Look around for other DMCs to compare this car with! There are always a few for sale on the DMC List web page, thye Trader mags, etc. 117k miles is VERY high for a DeLorean! When I bought my first DMC in 1998 I was many with only 25k to 30k miles. I bought a 100% perfect grey interior, manual, no gas flap, '81, with 28k miles for only $10,500.oo in Los Angeles! Cheers, IAN (HongKong) Vins. 0780, 1205, & 6425 ************************************* ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 7 Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 23:34:29 -0500 From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe@xxxxxxx> Subject: Holiday Greeting To All, During this special time of the year we would like to send our best wishes to all of the DML readers, moderators and our customers. Special greetings go to Debbie and Rob Grady of PJ Grady DeLorean Parts and Steven, James, and Warren of the DeLorean Motor Company for helping to make this past year the most successful in our 16 year history. On behalf of the DeLorean Services staff and our family's we would like to wish everyone a joyous, happy, and safe holiday season. DeLorean Services Bob, DMC Joe, and Alan "We're here to help you" Seasons Greetings! De Lorean Services / <delorean@xxxxxxx> Web Site: (TEMPORARY)<www.geocities.com/dmcjoe> ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________
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