Before posting messages or replies, see the posting policy rules at: www.dmcnews.com/Admin/rules.html To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderator@xxxxxxxxxxx ------------------------------------------------------------------------ There are 3 messages in this issue. Topics in this digest: 1. Re:storage was oil filers From: "jtrealty@xxxxxxxxxxx " <jtrealty@xxxxxxxxxxx> 2. Paging Matt Taylor... From: Brian Henderlong <bhender1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 3. Re: Re:storage was oil filers From: William T Wilson <fluffy@xxxxxxxxxxx> ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 1 Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 04:45:23 -0000 From: "jtrealty@xxxxxxxxxxx " <jtrealty@xxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re:storage was oil filers I see I struck a nerve. There are many different ways to store a car and the opinions on what to do with the motor oil is a very controverstial area. In my experiance it really doesn't matter as long as you don't get flooded or are in too hot or too high a humidity. A bigger problem is the fuel. Fuel doesn't store well in cars. It is dangerous and unstable especialy the newer blends with the oxygenates and additives. The most important thing you can do is drain ALL of the fuel from the car in storage. Next it is best if the car is on jackstands, not just for the tires but so the springs are less stressed. The tires will be alright in a few miles as long as it's only a couple of months. The battery should be removed and kept fully charged. If the anti-freeze is old or acidic or weak it should be changed before storage. If the brake fluid is over 2 years old it should be flushed out with dot 4. The most important thing about storage is the way you bring a car out of it. You should manualy turn the engine over several times before trying to start it. You should add fresh fuel and a fully charged battery. As soon as it is warmed up change the oil and filter. This could get lengthy and I am sure there are many with other ideas on how to store and unstore a car. In all of the cars I have taken out of storage and in junkyards the smallest problem was internal corrosion in the motor not counting the cooling system. David Teitelbaum vin 10757 Yes my car is now in storage for the winter --- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxx, "Steve Rubano" <srubano@xxxx> wrote: > I agree that with Dave in supporting our well deserved Delorean parts > vendors and purchasing parts through them. I don't agree with storing > any car without changing the oil ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 2 Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 00:06:20 -0500 From: Brian Henderlong <bhender1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Paging Matt Taylor... A couple of years ago Matt Taylor sent me a picture of a white 1983 DeLorean -- Matt, if you're still on the list, would you e-mail me, please? It's in relation to my "Painted DeLoreans" website. Thanks, - Brian Henderlong / Tampa, FL - DeLorean: http://home.tampabay.rr.com/deloreans/index.htm - Impala SS: http://home.tampabay.rr.com/deloreans/brakes.htm ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 3 Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 00:43:56 -0500 (EST) From: William T Wilson <fluffy@xxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Re:storage was oil filers On Sun, 19 Nov 2000, jtrealty@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote: > bigger problem is the fuel. Fuel doesn't store well in cars. It is > dangerous and unstable especialy the newer blends with the oxygenates > and additives. The most important thing you can do is drain ALL of the > fuel from the car in storage. Next it is best if the car is on I disagree (although not strongly). I think it is better to fill the fuel tank and fill it with stabilizer, then drain it and refill it when you un-store the car. The primary advantages to a full tank with stabilizer vs. an empty tank is that the parts will not dry out, and (if you are in a humid area) there is no opportunity for the inside of the tank to corrode from ambient moisture. But either are much better than just leaving half a tank of ordinary fuel sitting around in the tank. > jackstands, not just for the tires but so the springs are less > stressed. The tires will be alright in a few miles as long as it's > only a couple of months. The battery should be removed and kept fully If you don't have stands, you can preserve the tires by moving the car a foot or two (by pushing) every couple of weeks. This will put a different part of the tire facing down and keep flat spots from developing. > charged. If the anti-freeze is old or acidic or weak it should be > changed before storage. If the brake fluid is over 2 years old it It's also important that the car be driven some after the antifreeze is changed. The new antifreeze needs to be circulated through both the engine and the radiator to ensure that the anti-corrosive agents in the new antifreeze get well distributed. > should be flushed out with dot 4. The most important thing about > storage is the way you bring a car out of it. You should manualy turn > the engine over several times before trying to start it. You should > add fresh fuel and a fully charged battery. As soon as it is warmed up > change the oil and filter. This could get lengthy and I am sure there Agreed! But I think that (unless you live in a very humid area) it isn't necessary to change the oil immediately after storage. Oil doesn't spoil but it does get contaminated. Over time, little bits of crud in the engine will tend to get into the oil whether the engine is run or not, and this contaminates it. But more of it will tend to get loose after a period of driving after storage. Once you unstore the car, you ought to drive it for a couple of days and up to a hundred miles or two, then change the oil. Of course, if you are only storing the car for a few months over the winter, it isn't really necessary to be so fussy especially if you can drive the car periodically (to get the fuel and fluids circulated). Most of this really only applies if you are planning to store a car for several years. ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________
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