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Title: [DML] Digest Number 147

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There are 20 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. Re: Inner roof braces?
           From: "Michael D'Auria" <mikeydmc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
      2. Re: Inner roof braces?
           From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe@xxxxxxx>
      3. Re: toll booth window
           From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe@xxxxxxx>
      4. Re: toll booth window
           From: "Chris Coplen" <blarness@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
      5. looking for parts
           From: efren hicks <marty_mcflyJr@xxxxxxxxx>
      6. I have a great OIL filter
           From: "Chris Coplen" <blarness@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
      7. RTV sealant/Fuel pump
           From: Cliff Andrews <fen2k@xxxxxxxxx>
      8. Re: Reliable Auto D Wanted: Advice Needed
           From: Marc A Levy <malevy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
      9. RE: Toll booth window
           From: "Fr@nk Lommen" <j.m.s.c.lommen@xxxxxxxxx>
     10. Re: toll booth window
           From: E Grauff <datamonk@xxxxxxx>
     11. RE: Toll Booth Window ALIGNMENT
           From: jus4sho@xxxxxxx
     12. door removed-T-bar question
           From: Delorean17@xxxxxxx
     13. Re: RTV sealant/Fuel pump
           From: sand131@xxxxxxx
     14. Re: RTV sealant/Fuel pump
           From: "Robert Bell" <elduke@xxxxxxx>
     15. Fall Foliage Tour hotel res update
           From: "Michael DeLuca" <mdeluca@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
     16. DMC Prototype
           From: "Thomas B" <tjb229@xxxxxxx>
     17. Re: DOA Website Friendly to Ken's Show
           From: "jtrealty@xxxxxxxxxxx " <jtrealty@xxxxxxxxxxx>
     18. Re: Re: DOA Website Friendly to Ken's Show
           From: <mikeatk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
     19. Re: Stainless Scratchs
           From: burkephoto@xxxxxxx
     20. Re: Broken Shift Linkage (plus update!)
           From: "Robert Rooney" <dmcvegas@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>


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Message: 1
   Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 20:44:30 -0400
   From: "Michael D'Auria" <mikeydmc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Inner roof braces?

Steve,

    I just finished reading Stainless Steel Illusion i forget by who, and it
shows an internal picture of hoe the doors are supported.  I belive there
was a discussion of patents last week and i think somebody said DeLorean has
a patent on the support but i am not sure.  The doors have a steel support
structure in the back that holds up the doors.

-Mikey D




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Message: 2
   Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 22:25:11 -0400
   From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Inner roof braces?

The core of the fiberglass roof section of the DeLorean, known as the "spider", is made of steel.

"We're here to help you"

DMC Help / De Lorean Services / <dmchelp@xxxxxxx>
Web Site: <www.deloreanservices.com>
 
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: jus4sho@xxxxxxx
  To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxx
  Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2000 5:20 PM
  Subject: [DML] Inner roof braces?


  I was wondering if anyone knew what if any metal bracing there is embedded in the fiberglass of the D's roof panel (between the doors)  i.e.  Are the door hinges bolting essentially through fiberglass only or is there an embedded plate or plates of some sort?  I guess this requires someone either having tried to drill through this area or having seen a seriously damaged roof section which might have fractured the fiberglass exposing it's internals.

  Thanks,
         Steve
         VIN 2650



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Message: 3
   Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 21:15:36 -0400
   From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: toll booth window


Erik,

Referring to 8/7/1 remove the window support bracket #4. Remove the two 10mm bolts that attach the cable drive to the glass carrier bracket. Pull the glass up until the carrier bracket nylon track runners make contact with the stainless steel inner door section. Carefully bend the stainless inner door section lip enough to allow the track runners to clear the stainless lip. Pull the glass up and out of the door.

When replacing the glass be aware that there are nubs located on the inside of the nylon track runners that will interfere with replacement of the runners onto the track. With the use of a small screwdriver align the front and rear track as to bypass the nubs.

"We're here to help you"

DMC Help / De Lorean Services / <dmchelp@xxxxxxx>
Web Site: <www.deloreanservices.com>
 
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Erik Geerdink
  To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxx
  Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2000 11:24 AM
  Subject: [DML] toll booth window


  I'm having a problem getting a tollbooth window out.  Its the
  passenger side and I can't figure out what bolts to take off.  I have
  the interior panels off and I can see all the inner workings.    I'm
  sure it's a simple process, but if someone could show me the ways,
  I'd appreciate it.  Thanks!

  Erik Geerdink




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Message: 4
   Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 00:45:46 -0400
   From: "Chris Coplen" <blarness@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: toll booth window

Not to sound too silly, but...  what is a "tollbooth" window? 
Chris

----- Original Message -----
From: "Erik Geerdink" <delorean502@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: <dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2000 11:24 AM
Subject: [DML] toll booth window


> I'm having a problem getting a tollbooth window out.  Its the
> passenger side and I can't figure out what bolts to take off.  I have
> the interior panels off and I can see all the inner workings.    I'm
> sure it's a simple process, but if someone could show me the ways,
> I'd appreciate it.  Thanks!
>
> Erik Geerdink
>
>
>
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Message: 5
   Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 20:11:05 -0700 (PDT)
   From: efren hicks <marty_mcflyJr@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: looking for parts

hello list

Im currently looking for these dirt cheap used
parts. here my list:

-used front fascia (no eyebrows)
-grille w/ emblem
-used rear drivers side quater panel no glass need
and the black thing that goes under the panel
-delorean speakers  or any that will fit(tai u still
got them)
-good working hood and rear struts
-"dmc" rim caps for 83
 
efren
i also have thing to trade!



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Message: 6
   Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 00:37:19 -0400
   From: "Chris Coplen" <blarness@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: I have a great OIL filter

I've been using the cross-referenced filter from the mid-nineties SC400.
Fits PERFECTLY and does not interfere with the oil sensor.
BTW: I bought one of "Midwest's" oil gauge sensors.  Man, does that work
like a CHARM!  No more fake 80+ oil pressures at idle.

-Chris
3876

----- Original Message -----
From: "Marc A Levy" <malevy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2000 8:32 AM
Subject: Re: [DML] Oil Filter + Oil


> I have been told that the DeLorean needs good oil flow, and the Purflux
> filter design has better flow than most of the other filters.  Some of
> the other filters sacrifice flow in order to keep the pressure up.  I
> dont know if this is good for the DeLorean.
>
> "Tom Watkins watbmv@xxxxxxxxxxxx" wrote:
>
> > I've been searching the archive for about 45 minutes and cannot find
> > one listing regarding cross over Oil Filters!  My car came with
> > several Purflux filters so I didn't need to buy one but I'm now at a
> > point where I need to.  I know some are a bit large but I used to use
> > Frams on my first car with no problem.  I just can't recall the
> > filter number.  Anyone have any concerns about Mobil One filters?
> > Any thoughts about Fram or the "Tough Guard" Fram filter?.
> >
>
>
>
>
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Message: 7
   Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 22:15:18 -0700 (PDT)
   From: Cliff Andrews <fen2k@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RTV sealant/Fuel pump

Hi everyone.. i just recently replaced my fuel pump
assembley (everything).. and damnit i still get some
gas smell coming in... i checked the area tonight and
saw that gas was filling up inside of the boot and
surrounding the pump and contacts.. i had this problem
before and it kind of unnerves me to think of gas and
electrical connections in contact.. so my question:

Will RTV sealant hold up submerged in gas?

I want to seal up the boot so no gas can get in :)

Cliff Andrews
Centreville, VA
10854

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Message: 8
   Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 08:23:51 -0400
   From: Marc A Levy <malevy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Reliable Auto D Wanted: Advice Needed

Give D1 a call, and verify the story.  I would suspect they would have a
good amount of information on the car if they service it.

As far as storage goes, it is not uncommon to find a stored DeLorean for
sale.  Follow all of the guidelines that have been discussed many times
on the list when selecting, and reviving any DeLorean.


bduncan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
<SNIP>
>
> Description: 1981 Delorean # 153 built. It is a certified Delorean
> Motor Co. training vehicle. All original, black leather. Only 6,180
> miles, very clean. Test driven by John Delorean himself. Upgraded in
> 1994 by Delorean 1 in Los Angeles. Previously owned by theBlue
<SNIP>



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Message: 9
   Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 13:30:05 +0200
   From: "Fr@nk Lommen" <j.m.s.c.lommen@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: Toll booth window




Hi Erik,

First lower the window. Then you'd have to remove the upper door panel (no
bolts, just fir-trees) and then remove the bracket just beneath the window
(about 6 screws). If you movethe window up, it will fall a little to the
inside of the car (door closed). Take the window in your hand and pull it
out. That should do it.
Do you also have a used right toll booth window for sale?
Frank Lommen
dmc.frenkie@xxxxxxx

Message: 16
   Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 15:24:15 -0000
   From: "Erik Geerdink" <delorean502@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: toll booth window

I'm having a problem getting a tollbooth window out.  Its the
passenger side and I can't figure out what bolts to take off.  I have
the interior panels off and I can see all the inner workings.    I'm
sure it's a simple process, but if someone could show me the ways,
I'd appreciate it.  Thanks!

Erik Geerdink






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Message: 10
   Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 10:08:25 -0700 (PDT)
   From: E Grauff <datamonk@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: toll booth window

It's so small, that it's only good for paying tolls at toll booths.
(If you ever drive through a fast food place, you usually have to open the
door to get your drinks . . . ;-)


On Fri, 28 Jul 2000, Chris Coplen wrote:
> Not to sound too silly, but...  what is a "tollbooth" window? 
> Chris
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Erik Geerdink" <delorean502@xxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2000 11:24 AM
> Subject: [DML] toll booth window
> > I'm having a problem getting a tollbooth window out.  Its the
> > passenger side and I can't figure out what bolts to take off.  I have




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Message: 11
   Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 15:12:52 EDT
   From: jus4sho@xxxxxxx
Subject: RE: Toll Booth Window ALIGNMENT

While we're on the subject of toll booth windows... My pasenger side TB window seems to sit too far forward.  It's level, but hits the front of the fixed glass opening about a quarter inch before being completely up, leaving a slight  gap at the top and rear.  I removed the door panel and looked, but didn't see a means of adjusting the window forward and back.  I was wondering if there is a way or does the fixed glass have to be moved?  (hope not)

Thanks,
       Steve
       VIN 2650



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Message: 12
   Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 14:15:09 EDT
   From: Delorean17@xxxxxxx
Subject: door removed-T-bar question

Hello,
    I'll make this quick.  I just removed my passenger side door because I
had to remove the front hinge hinge and add 2 more shims so it wouldnt hit
the T-panel.  I got the door off and back in, in 30 mins but I have to leave
for work now so I cant put the Torsion-bar in.
    I adjusted both doors last month  with a 1/2 in torque wrench with a
craftsman 1/2(made for impact wrench-black metal) to 3/8 connector to the
allen socket.  It worked but the torque wrench was bowing a little.  It goes
up to 140 foot pounds. how much torque does it require to adjust the t-bar? 
I would hate to have it break on me.  I am also going to move the other T-bar
back 2 notches.  I hate how fast my doors open, I like them to almost sag a
little.

any info would be appreciated.  I am adjusting them tomorrow at 1:00

Thanks
Dave



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Message: 13
   Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 11:13:28 EDT
   From: sand131@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: RTV sealant/Fuel pump

Dear Cliff:
 My guess is that you have a leak in the fitting that connection the returns
fuel line to the tank return tube that routes fuel back to the tank. This can
be dangerous have it fixed properly.
Ralph
Vin1606



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Message: 14
   Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 12:28:08 -0500
   From: "Robert Bell" <elduke@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: RTV sealant/Fuel pump

Instead of trying to seal up the boot, I think you should check your tubbing
fittings, one has to be leaking for gas to be getting on the top side of
your pump.
But then again, I could be wrong...sure would not be the first time!
Bob
5947

----- Original Message -----
From: Cliff Andrews <fen2k@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, July 28, 2000 12:15 AM
Subject: [DML] RTV sealant/Fuel pump


> Hi everyone.. i just recently replaced my fuel pump
> assembley (everything).. and damnit i still get some
> gas smell coming in... i checked the area tonight and
> saw that gas was filling up inside of the boot and
> surrounding the pump and contacts.. i had this problem
> before and it kind of unnerves me to think of gas and
> electrical connections in contact.. so my question:
>
> Will RTV sealant hold up submerged in gas?
>
> I want to seal up the boot so no gas can get in :)
>
> Cliff Andrews
> Centreville, VA
> 10854
>
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Message: 15
   Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 15:06:47 -0000
   From: "Michael DeLuca" <mdeluca@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Fall Foliage Tour hotel res update

I would like to post an update and correction about the hotel
reservation policy at the Pleasant View Inn 1-800 782-3224 for the
upcoming Fall Foliage Tour. When you make your reservation they will
put a $50 deposit on your charge card, this is fully refundable with
14 days notice prior to check in.
Please note that the hotel normally takes a $150 deposit and has a
$25 cancellation fee, which they have waved for us, and they are
giving us a nice discount on the room rates!
I encourage everyone who planes on attending to make your
reservations ASAP or to contact me at mdeluca@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx and let
me know that you are planning to attend.
 
See details of the trip below or go to
http://hometown.aol.com/delorean31/fall.html



The Delorean Fall Foliage Tour will be Oct 20-22 (Fri-Sun).
We will be staying in Westerly Road Island at the Pleasant View Inn
(on the Ocean) http://www.pvinn.com/ Phone 1-800 782-3224.
This trip will includes a stop in Mystic CT, a visit to Newport RI
where I have made arrangements to display the cars on the beach, a
trip to the Casino in Connecticut in the evening, a visit to the
Submarine Museum in Connecticut and a dinner in Westerly (near the
Hotel) at Maria's Seaside Café ($35 per person). The trip also
includes a Tech Session at the hotel with Guest speaker Rob Grady.
Note: I am trying to get Bob the designer of the famous Zilla products
      to attend an also talk about them but that is still pending.
 
It looks like Deloreans from Seven States so far will be attending
(PA, NJ, NY, CT, MA, RI and NH). There should be a group of DeLoreans
starting as far south as the Philadelphia area. The route will be
I-95 through New Jersey and New York and Connecticut. I will try to
set up a few meeting places along the way once I get an idea of who
will be attending (coming from Long Island I will probably join in at
one of the first rest stops on I-95 in CT).
People coming from the North may want to contact Eleanor Rogers of
Deloreans of New England group who will be attending or contact me
and I'll try to help set up a caravan for the New England people.
 
Gary Gore the activities director of Mid Atlantic was kind enough to
post the Itinerary, check it out at 
http://hometown.aol.com/delorean31/fall.html
 
If you think you would like to attend contact me at
mdeluca@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Please make your own hotel reservation as soon
as possible, we have a special rate of $90.40 but you must mention
you are with the Delorean group. I will start collecting the $35 per
person registration fee next month (that is to cover a complete sit
down dinner at the restaurant BTW)  
 
Regards,
 
Mike D.
Vin 3113
NY lic. DLORIANN





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Message: 16
   Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 18:32:57 -0000
   From: "Thomas B" <tjb229@xxxxxxx>
Subject: DMC Prototype

Does anyone know the details regaurding the prototype Delorean? I'm
talking about the one that was pictured in Stainless Steel Illusion. 
It was the car with brown leather interior and airbags. Its front end
looked longer than the production D, and it didn't have the louvres
in the rear. Was this car drivable or just a show car?  Is this car
still around today, and if so where is it?




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Message: 17
   Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 16:17:04 -0000
   From: "jtrealty@xxxxxxxxxxx " <jtrealty@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DOA Website Friendly to Ken's Show

To every one on the list and to Mike Substelny

I meant no disrespect to any D.O.A. members by my posting. I only
wanted to point out that at the last event that was also very well
attended by D. O. A. members it was barely mentioned in passing. I
hope that they not only accept the article that is submitted but that
it doesn't lose too much in the editing process. I know how they
don't
always come out like you send them in. This could be the beginning of
a new relationship, I just would wait to see it really happens before
anyone says it already has. I feel we cannot give Ken Koncelik enough
credit for the fantastic job he did almost singlehanded in 98 and the
again this year and I would like to see the D.O.A. aknowledge his
efforts and the efforts of all who made Cleavland such a great event.

David Teitelbaum
vin 10757




--- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxx, Mike Substelny <msubstel@xxxx> wrote:
> David Teitelbaum said:
>
> > Before we get to friendly with the doa I would like to see
> > how they report on the biggest delorean event in years in
> > delorean world.  They conspicuosly don't report on anything
> > outside their own sponsered events or when they do they give
> > it only a passing reference . . .
>
> I believe an upcoming DeLorean World will feature coverage of Ken
> Koncelik's DeLorean Car Show in Cleveland.  If you are unsatisfied
with
> the article please do not complain to the DOA.  Complain to me.  I
wrote
> it.
>
> However, I cannot take credit for the excellent photographs that
accompany
> the article.
>
> > Also let's not forget that JZD was there . . .
>
> Of course the article mentions JZD!  How could anyone overlook him?
>
> > Let's see if and when they put up a link to the memphis show in
2002 . .
> .
>
> If you follow the new link from the DOA website, you will see that
it
> *already* goes to Ken's Memphis 2002 information.
>
> - Mike Substelny
> DeLorean Club of Ohio
> DML Moderator Team




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Message: 18
   Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 04:28:55 -0700
   From: <mikeatk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Re: DOA Website Friendly to Ken's Show

Mike,

It's not my intent to open a can of worms or create bad feelings, but I have
to say something about your reply to David Teitelbaum.

I agree with your reply to him with one exception.  You quoted David as
saying, "Also let's not forget that JZD was there..."  and you replied.  "Of
course the article mentions JZD!  How could anyone overlook him?"  You cut
short David's quote.  He actually said,  "Also let's not forget that JZD was
there (he has yet to attend a doa event)."  I'm not attacking the doa, but
to miss quote even a little is unfair.  Maybe I'm wrong, and if so I'm
sorry.  But it seems the way you answered him was unfair.

Please, if your going to quote then quote the ENTIRE line!  We all know how
easy it is to misquote someone by editing there remarks.  I think you
removed his entire point by editing whether you intended to or not.

Mike Atkinson
vin16232






----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Substelny" <msubstel@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2000 7:56 AM
Subject: Re: [DML] Re: DOA Website Friendly to Ken's Show


> David Teitelbaum said:
>
> > Before we get to friendly with the doa I would like to see
> > how they report on the biggest delorean event in years in
> > delorean world.  They conspicuosly don't report on anything
> > outside their own sponsered events or when they do they give
> > it only a passing reference . . .
>
> I believe an upcoming DeLorean World will feature coverage of Ken
> Koncelik's DeLorean Car Show in Cleveland.  If you are unsatisfied with
> the article please do not complain to the DOA.  Complain to me.  I wrote
> it.
>
> However, I cannot take credit for the excellent photographs that accompany
> the article.
>
> > Also let's not forget that JZD was there . . .
>
> Of course the article mentions JZD!  How could anyone overlook him?
>
> > Let's see if and when they put up a link to the memphis show in 2002 . .
> .
>
> If you follow the new link from the DOA website, you will see that it
> *already* goes to Ken's Memphis 2002 information.
>
> - Mike Substelny
> DeLorean Club of Ohio
> DML Moderator Team
>
>
>
>
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Message: 19
   Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 07:16:07 EDT
   From: burkephoto@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Stainless Scratchs

In a message dated 7/28/00 3:30:59 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxx writes:

<< Subject: Stainless Scratchs
 
 Well, a bush jumped out and bit my DeLorean.  Now there are a large number
of scratches on the fender flair just behind the rear wheel.  My question is,
what would be the best method of removing these scratches by hand?  I have a
show coming up this weekend and would like to remove these scratches before
that time.  Most of the scratches are very small and I believe that they can
be removed very easily.  However, some (more than I would like) are a little
deeper and may be a problem to remove - after I work on it for a little bit,
I will have a better idea about how deep they are.  Can someone give me some
quick suggestions on how I can remedy this issue.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Sean Howley
 VIN#2345
 
  >>
Sean,

A body shop in Milwaukee told me they would refinish DeLorean panels they had
'bumped out' with 80 grit in a belt sander going in the direction of existing
grain pattern.  Your scratches can probably be removed with a scuff pad
(flexible sanding pad) available at auto or hardware centers.

Burke



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Message: 20
   Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 22:04:02 -0000
   From: "Robert Rooney" <dmcvegas@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Broken Shift Linkage (plus update!)

   An interesting note about the drawings is that they show a
slightly differant design for the pivot bolt assembly. In the process
drawings there appears to be a set of bushing bearings to fit between
the pivot bolt and the gearchange arm. A possibilty may have been
that the engineers forsaw possible problems with the bolt hence the
bushings, but they were perhaps removed later on to save money on
tooling.
Now for the update:
Last night I went to Pep Boys to get a replacement bolt. As luck
would have it the guy who helped me had done an alignment for a
DeLorean about 2 weeks ago, and had seen the bolt and assembly
himself. He came up with a solution for both a temporary bolt and a
permanent replacement. For the temp. bolt he cut a section of large
steel brake line as long as the unthreaded portion of the broken
bolt, and then slid it down to the head. This will allow the high
tensil bolt to be fit into place, but the sleeve installed will
protect the gearchange arm from getting damaged by the sharp threads.
Screw the bolt down, but don't tighen it against the gearchange
plate. Instead place an additional M8 nut on the exposed bottom &
tighten it up to the nut welded to the chassis. This will assure you
that the bolt will not "wiggle" out while you are driving down the
road.
   An added bonus is that the top portion of the bolt is wider now so
the gearchanged arm cannot rattle around. However, this is only
temporary. The steel that the brake line is made from is softer than
the bolt, so over time the threads may cut into it, though it's way
too early to tell right now (maybe if the threads were wrapped in a
thick layer of teflon tape first...).
   For the replacement bolt, the guy suggested a high tensil M10
bolt. Cut it at the top to measure out where the wider smooth portion
will be. Then tap the remander of the bolt to an M8 1.25 thread. This
would produce the exact same version of the bolt, only now it would
be made from high tensil steel. The guy made it sound pretty easy,
but I would like a little imput on how I would go about doing this.
   When I get a chance I'll write up an addition to the technical
library on this. Plus I'll try to include some photos & illustraions
as well (I've been so busy I haven't even finished with the
electrical distributor addition yet!). Any questions, you know what
to do!

-Robert
vin 6585


--- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxx, "Dave Swingle" <dswingle@xxxx> wrote:
> More Information - in the eGroups Files section at
> http://www.egroups.com/files/dmcnews/PROCESS-A/
>
> Somebody put the factory assembly drawings for the shift linkage
that
> shows this in detail. Look at the drawings labled PROCESS 1 thru 4.
>
> These were put there in January, no idea who did it. Thanks whoever
> you are!
>
> Dave




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