--- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Randal Atamaniuk" <martydmc12@xxxx> wrote: > I've read many negative comments over the past few years on the mailing list > and abroad about the DOA. I have been a member myself for 10 years +, and > have no intention of leaving, as many have done. I think based on comments > like this one here... > > "Instead of this main audience, the DOA has chosen a TARGET AUDIENCE... > those who are really more interested in a lifestyle than a car. They want to > flaunt DeLorean ownership as an experience akin to being a member of an > elite country club which has an exclusionary membership policy" > > ... you're forgetting a very important element to the DeLorean and its > history. This attitude taken, is what John DeLorean's original intention > and vision was. How many times have we heard it, the DeLorean is a car for > the Bachelor who's made it. The car went up against Covette, Mercedes, > Porsche and another elite vehicles. This car wasn't intended for the > average Joe. Just because DeLoreans are more affordable today, than they > would have been in 1981, doesn't mean they should be treated that way. It's > not a right to own a DeLorean, but a privelage. And the DOA continues to > respect that ideaology. > > Randy Atamaniuk > Vin #16353 WRONG! None of this is correct! The idea that the DeLorean was a car for, "...the horny bachelor who's made it." did NOT come from John De Lorean! This was an off-color comment that was made by Lotus engineers that were working on the DMC-12 project. And the idea that the DeLorean is/was intended to be a car for the elite members of society is complete bunk. Intended production rates for the DMC-12 were scheduled to be around 30,000+ units per year, EVERY year. Those are hardly figures that indicate a car manufacturer intends for a vehicle to be of a limited production. This isn't Ferrari. DMC's intention was to sell a vehicle to anyone, and everyone who could buy one, not whomever they deemed "worthy" of ownership. The real, if not only "vision" that JZD had for people whom owned one of his cars was that they build an aftermarket communications network for both information distribution, and social interactions in order to make ownership more fufilling, and purchasing a car more inticing to potential customers. And the only "idea" that was in place to establish membership eleigibility was really just ownership/enthusiasim, not someone's individual social/financial status. Infact, it's been stated by DeLorean that he hated the idea even back in the 60's that only old men with money could afford to buy higher end cars, while young people whom would actually be the ones to enjoy, and really appriciate the cars, were barrred from owning them because of the high prices they couldn't afford. Was the car intended for the "Average Joe"? I'd say so. A simplified building process, utilizing a majority of commonly available, universal parts and components, vs. more exotic cars while use components that are mostly hand-tooled. And then there's reliability. An intended 7 year bumper to bumper warrranty was planned, along with a 25 year anti perforation guarantee on body pannels, AND an intended SS chassis on the way. Versus other cars which require tune-ups that cost $1,000s of dollars, require overly frequent maintenance, and had/have warranties that don't exceed 24 months. Judging by this, the DeLorean was most definatly a car that was built for the long term car owner who wants to get the most bang for their buck. Someone whom isn't easily duped into thinking that the higher the maintenance costs on a car become, the more of a "status symbol" it becomes. And what the hell do you mean by, " Just because DeLoreans are more affordable today, than they would have been in 1981, doesn't mean they should be treated that way."? Exactly what are you getting at? I am genuinly curious. I know that you're not a designated spokesperson for the DOA, so I'm not going to hold your words against them. But if you are correct in stating that this is what they not only stand for, but wish to preserve this kind of descrimination against current, and potential owners, then I will truly be very sorry to hear that... In any case, you've got to realize that other than a strong desire to be different, there is no possible way to classify what a DeLorean owner is, or isn't. We come from all walks of life, we all vary in age. We're engineers, entertainers, bankers, entrepreneurs, service industry workers, police officers, students, good 'ol boys (& girls), and even occasionally a criminal. We're somebodies, and nobodies. But one thing remains: We're all DeLorean owners. The only thing that will ever determine our "privilege" to own our cars, shall be our ability to physicly posses one. Nothing, and most cetainly, no one else. -Robert vin 6585 "X" To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/