On 9/11/07, Martin Gutkowski <martin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Point taken, and I wish all americans had your attitude :-) So do I. ;-) > My car gets 60mpg on a good run, is a comfortable 5 seater with a decent > boot, quite a few toys and is now 8 years old, and absolutely nothing > special... Right. That's why I don't get what we're doing with hybrids, by and large. OK, my hybrid is an exception. It's designed as a maximum economy commuter and really does get outrageous mileage. The Prius isn't bad. People whine about getting only 45mpg, but if you learn to drive the fucking thing you can get 60 out of it. Hybrids simply demand a different driving style, you absolutely must pay attention to your fuel vs. electrical usage and drive accordingly. When you deplete the batteries driving like a moron and the engine has to spool up and recharge them, mileage suffers tremendously. You guys have diesels that get 60mpg without having to play games with how you drive and without the complications of a hybrid. Why on earth nobody is importing those here and selling them to the public, I've no idea. My bet is there are enough environmental & emissions laws on the books to prevent it. -Ryan Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DMCForum/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DMCForum/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:DMCForum-digest@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx mailto:DMCForum-fullfeatured@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: DMCForum-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/