Re: [DMCForum] Re: Cop stories

[Marc Levy <malevy_nj@xxxxxxxxx>]

A new topic to discuss!  YAY!  :)

--- dmcgman <DmcGman@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Oh geez I am sure thats the reason they dont have
> them LOL.  Most 
> police cars have video recordings and they are
> locked in the trunk 
> and everything is recorded no matter who it is and
> the officer can 
> not edit it or erase it.  No different than having
> someone riding 
> with you monitoring everything.  Funny how 

The difference is, someone would need to make a
complaint against the officer for those tapes to even
be pulled.  Who is going to make a complaint against
an officer?  it is like suicide especially if is in a
town you spend lots of time in.  

Here is an example,  the intersection of Rt 35 and
Industrial way in Eatontown NJ is always congested. 
It can take up to 20 min to get across during the 5PM
hour.  One day, I am waiting at the light facing West
and I see a cop car pull off in to the right shoulder
on the south bound lane of Rt 35.  He just sat there
as Rt 35 traffic whizzed by.  Then, when the Rt 35
light went red (and mine went green) he decided to put
his lights on and make an illegal left turn going East
(while everyone else waited 20 min in the U-Turn).  He
came within a few inches of hitting me, and turned his
lights off as he passed through the intersection.

Sure, one could say "you don't know where he was
going, maybe on the way to a call?".  If that is true,
why did he wait the extra minute or so for the light
to turn?  Why did he switch his light off after making
his illegal turn?

And yes, maybe this is "one bad cop" but I can tell
dozens of stories like this where it would seem the
officer has abused his power.  Even if half of them
are correct interpretations, it is still too much.

I am sure I would be real popular in Eatontown is I
called up the chief to complain about this incident.

> lawyers,
> doctors, 
> teachers, priests, and other professions are never
> debated to this 

I think law enforcement people should be held to a
higher standard.  The problem is, their exposure to
the system and knowledge of the law (and those that
enforce the law) permit them to be above the law.  

Sure, a Lawyer can tell me not to speed but when HE
speeds, he is just as likely to get a ticket as I am. 
An officer is not.

Doctor can tell you to not smoke, and loose weight..
but if you refuse, he wont issue you an expensive
ticket.

We can go on with similar examples of other
professions.

"Got Root?", I do..  My profession allows me access to
all sorts of data that is none of my business.  Part
of my job is to enforce computer security.  Although I
could get away with it, it would be unethical for me
to be reading other peoples e-mails, and other
personal data.  I am held to a higher standard of NOT
"snooping around" because of the trust that my
employers have for me.

> extent.  Proabbkly a lot safer to read Yahoo Groups
> all day :-) And 
> again the thousands of daily good deeds done by the
> men and women in 
> laew enforcment every day, or those who lost their
> lives doing them, 
> are never brought up.  Of course everyone has an

I disagree with this.  Plenty of credit is given to
officers.  Even watching the "COPS" shows (and the
like), they always do it from the officers point of
view.  The "real police video" programs are also
always about how a cop saved the day, or put
themselves at risk.  Where is the video of the bad
cops?

We all chose our careers.  Last night I was up until 3
AM repairing a server.  Had I been unsuccessful, a
small business here in NJ would probably be closing
their doors today.  But, no TV show was there to
recognize.  No medals from public officials.  Yea, I
know, my life was not at risk (other than driving home
at 3 AM in the rain half asleep) but this is the
career I chose.  My nephew wants to be a cop, and I
always wonder why?  But, it is his choice and he knows
the risks.

> opinion how to do 
> someone elses job differently, but then again maybe
> they should walk 
> in the shoes of that person before making judgments.

This is very true.  However, are we making judgments??
 I don't think so, we were just discussion our "cop
stories".  Personal experiences with officers.  I
don't recall anyone passing judgment.

>  Last time I 
> was at the National Police Officers Memorial in
> Washington I saw two 
> people that I knew who are now memorialized there as
> a result of 
> loosing their lives here in NJ while serving the
> community.  Seems 
> like a more important issue than a traffic ticket. 

I am sorry to hear that Gary.  Being an officer is a
risky job.  More risk than I would want to take to
"earn a living".  Losing a life IS more important than
a traffic ticket.  By us discussing it, I don't see
how it makes light of the risk some officers take on a
daily basis.

> But of course 
> not one most would bring up.  Better to bring up the
> one time out of 
> ten they didnt get a break.  But then there are
> always two sides to 
> any story of course :-)

Yup.  always two sides.  And both sides are jaded,
cynical because of their own experiences.

It is more exciting to talk about the NYC cop that hit
me with her car, then took off (did not even stop!)
than the one who picked me up and gave me a ride to a
gas station when I ran out of gas.

See Gary, the Forum is not so bad.  It is fun to
discuss these off-topic things.

:)


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