Marten, I wasn't trying to attack you but sometimes, perhaps because of your electrical background, you say things that look good on paper but I don't think you have the necessary experience to back up in practice. That’s normal...you are young and entitled to your own opinion. You've said both good and bad things about Zilla's and I appreciate some of it and don't mind listening to suggestions but you don't know the track record of all the products out there like I do. I could pick apart the Houston tank sender too but what point would there be as it is currently the only cost effective one available so I use it too. It has faults I could reveal but since I don't currently have a better product available what IS the point. The fact that BobZilla and I stuck our necks out and introduced a better line of electronics for the D which have proven reliable should not be the cause of so much grumbling and second guessing by every owner with an electrical degree. I don't have one so you have me there but Bobzilla knows electrical design and I know DeLorean's better than you, Elvis, and a half a dozen other people who seem unsatisfied with their design. If you guys can build better modules for the locks and fans and sell them for $9.99 or even $299.99 I say more power to you. But if you're not going to because you "can't justify the cost" I say it's time to "shit or get off the pot". I don't mean that in a bad way it's just that the same crap keeps getting repeated over and over and I don't see why I should have to waste time defending our products to people who don't even use them. When my customers start complaining about them is when I'll be concerned. I hear the same complaints from mostly the same people every year. If you don't like it I'm not asking you to buy it...OK. Just keep a wary eye on your "Fan Fix's, your fan fail wires, or any of your own homebuilt inventions lest you one day find YOUR DeLorean on fire! Rob Grady, P.J.Grady Inc. -----Original Message----- From: DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Martin Gutkowski Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 8:19 AM To: DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Cc: rob@xxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [DMCForum] Re: FanZilla VS "Fan Fix": Rob, Simple point here: The Fanzilla is a good product, but expensive and could be better at the design level *in my opinion*. Your attack on me yesterday was based purely on one comment where I pointed out that I'd seen a FanZilla that didn't work. Was that fair? I'd written a long e-mail which I'm sure would be accepted in the same negative way, so I've deleted it and this is -my- last word on the subject. I don't like the mud-slinging but will continue advise my customers as to the best products and the best place to buy them, if not available from us. Martin DMC Ltd pjgrady2000 wrote: > - > > > Martin, > > Hmmm..... you didn't build it because it would be at a price > you "couldn't justify". Sounds like a Fanzilla I suppose but why is > it you two "electrical engineers" can find so much fault with a > product but aren't willing to invest the time and money to invent > something better for less as you suggest it would be so easy to do. Yahoo! Groups Links -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.361 / Virus Database: 267.12.4/146 - Release Date: 10/21/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.361 / Virus Database: 267.12.5/147 - Release Date: 10/24/2005 ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/HliolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DMCForum/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: DMCForum-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/