[DMCForum] Re: Hybrid question for Dr. Dave - Paging Dr. Dave...

["twinenginedmc12" <twinenginedmc12@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hello.

It sounds ambitious.  If you're actually doing it to save money, it 
might end up being a stretch.  On the other hand, you might figure 
out a cost-effective way of doing it which would surely generate 
widespread attention.  It sure will have a high "coolness factor" 
though, not matter what.  "This sucker's electrical"... Doc Brown, 
BTTF.  (Please forgive me if I misquoted him).

Rick.

--- In DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "cruznmd" <racuti1@xxxx> wrote:
> Hey Rick,
> 
> Basically, I'm just investigating different options to get me to 
the 
> Metro every day. Bio-diesel? Hybrid? Pure electric?
> 
> Everyone presents valid concerns, ie the "energy chain" extra cost 
of 
> household electricity to charge the hybrid, + fuel etc...
> 
> I have a 28-ish mile round trip commute. I have spoken with Dave 
> Delman. We're having interesting conversations regarding the cost 
of 
> KW hours vs. the current price of gasoline which is just going up, 
> up, up. I also happen to think that the price of electricty depends 
> on who your utility company is, and what they use to provide 
> electricity. A nuclear or hydro powerplant has little increased 
costs 
> as petroleum costs rise. A coal-fired plant experiences some 
> increased costs because as I've observed here, diesel loco's haul 
the 
> coal to the plant and there is the cost of diesel to consider. 
Either 
> way, the cost of an electric charge is not going to outpace the 
cost 
> of gasoline or diesel. Already too many people are fighting over 
> diesels for the bio conversion. People are paying quite a bit of 
> money for junker diesels on Ebay. You can also blunt the cost of 
> charging your vehicle with home solar systems. Charge a bank of 
> batteries in your basement with solar panels on your roof and/or a 
> small wind-mill, then plug the car into that. It'll then cost less 
> grid-provided juice to charge the car. Even building only one EV 
for 
> me or my wife will reduce our bill significantly. I'm looking at a 
> 400-500$ savings annually at current prices without the home 
> solar/wind systems.
> 
> I found an EV trading website with a converted Bradley GT II. $5k 
and 
> boy is it pretty! I'm also looking at a little EV utility van. I'm 
> considering aiding the charging by putting a huge solar panel on 
it's 
> large roof to at least trickle charge it for the 10 hours a day 
that 
> it'll be sitting at the Metro parking lot. 
> 
> This is all fast and loose. Nothing hard or on paper yet. And 
> (sigh)...yes, I would like to pollute less. I'm no tree-hugger but 
> when a foreigner complains about what a wasteful bunch we are and 
can 
> tell him to shut his pie-hole. Like Vixen Dave says, RRR. I'll fix 
up 
> a used EV perhaps..
> 
> Rich
> 
> --- In DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "twinenginedmc12" 
> <twinenginedmc12@xxxx> wrote:
> > Hi Rich.
> > 
> > I know I'm not Dave, but I do have some experience with this.  
It's 
> not 
> > too complicated, but it will be a little expensive but you 
probably 
> > already know that.  You'll probably end up putting them in series 
> to 
> > minimize losses, and have each battery monitored with little 
sense 
> > lines that connect to a charge controller ($$).  This is a common 
> way 
> > of doing it with NiCd batteries.  I suspect that Li Ion batteries 
> are 
> > done similarly.  
> > 
> > I can't wait to see what cool thing you're making.  I hope you 
> don't 
> > let anybody talk you out of it, and try not to electrocute 
yourself.
> > 
> > Rick Gendreau
> > 
> >  --- In DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "cruznmd" <racuti1@xxxx> wrote:
> > > Dave,
> > > 
> > > I recently read about hybrid hot-rodders who are installing 
small 
> > > stacks of Li-ion batteries in their hybrids for extended 
mileage- 
> > > anywhere from 80 to 250. They plug 'em in at home to charge 
them 
> each 
> > > day. When the spare batteries drain, the normal hybrid action 
> kicks 
> > in 
> > > and mileage drops to the car's advertised rating.
> > > 
> > > Do you think you could figure out how to wire these batteries 
in 
> if 
> > > someone asked you to?
> > > 
> > > Thanks,
> > > 
> > > Rich A.
> > > #5335

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