RE: [DMCForum] Re: DMCH Reproduction headlight switch

["Videobob Moseley" <videobob@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

I am guessing that since it would be such a small order, maybe $5 each 
(shipping included).
- VB


>From: "Joe OBrien" <joeyoseppijoe@xxxxxxxxx>
>Reply-To: DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>To: DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: [DMCForum] Re: DMCH Reproduction headlight switch
>Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2005 01:59:38 -0000
>
>How Much?
>
>
>-Joe
>
>
>
>--- In DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Videobob Moseley" <videobob@xxxx>
>wrote:
> > I wonder if it would have been better to re-design a new rotory
>style
> > switch, with better
> > contacts instead of the faulty push-button style.
> > And, if the little craphic in the center is an issue I could easily
>make
> > some laminated decals
> > to replace that one that would look really good and only cost a few
>bucks.
> > Anyone interested in these?
> > I will make them.
> > - VB
> >
> > >From: "therealdmcvegas" <dmcvegas@xxxx>
> > >Reply-To: DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >To: DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >Subject: [DMCForum] Re: DMCH Reproduction headlight switch
> > >Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2005 21:51:06 -0000
> > >
> > >The switch isn't a easy peice to reproduce, it looks like. There
>are 6
> > >or so pieces which need to be cast, just for the plastic. Then
>you've
> > >print the icon on the front. Next you've got to stamp the metal
>pieces
> > >for the copper contacts, source a spring, and install a light bulb.
> > >And THEN assemble the whole thing! It's tiny, but a bit more
> > >complicated than you'd think a headlight switch should have to be.
> > >
> > >But then again, the DeLorean is the only car that I've ever seen
>with
> > >a 2 position, push button switch for the head lights. Every other
> > >vehicle has used either a pull knob with a built-in rheostat, or a
> > >twist switch. But DMCH can't redesign the switch over to these. I
> > >don't know if liability is so much of a factor, as is the fact that
> > >everyone would bitch that it's not original, and hence would then
> > >avoid buying one on purpose.
> > >
> > >-Robert
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >--- In DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Videobob Moseley"
><videobob@xxxx> wrote:
> > > > I didn't know they needed to make 1000 of them as a minimum.
> > > > I thought it was something like, 50 or a 100.
> > > > I don't know how much they are going to cost to make, but at 250
> > >they will
> > > > be
> > > > taking in $10,000 which they are holding and presumably earning
> > >interest on.
> > > > I could be worng, but maybe this fee is paying for the
>production
> > >and the
> > > > other
> > > > 750 are gravy? At retail these 750 would then all sell for
>another
> > >$50,000
> > > > or so.
> > > > Altogether it is a $60,000 deal at gross.
> > > >
> > > > Hey, I am glad they are doing it and it is a smart way of doing
>it,
> > >they win
> > > > win.
> > > >
> > > > - VB
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >From: "therealdmcvegas" <dmcvegas@xxxx>
> > > > >Reply-To: DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > >To: DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > >Subject: [DMCForum] Re: DMCH Reproduction headlight switch
> > > > >Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2005 20:41:19 -0000
> > > > >
> > > > >--- In DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Videobob Moseley"
><videobob@xxxx>
> > >wrote:
> > > > > > What was the minimum of switches they needed to make in
>order to
> > > > >make them?
> > > > > > - VB
> > > > >
> > > > >The minimum order acccording to their website, is 1,000
>switches. And
> > > > >since they're asking for 250 pre-orders, that means that DMCH
>is
> > > > >already ordering 750 of them on their own.
> > > > >
> > > > >The headlight switch is a wearable part, both internally, and
> > > > >externally. Aside from wearing out on the inside, it also can
>wear out
> > > > >the graphic on the outside, if someone kept pushing on the
>center of
> > > > >the button with their finger. And if you've ever seens a car
>that's
> > > > >had the icon worn and scraped away, you know how nasty it
>looks.
> > > > >
> > > > >Headlights themselves have absolutely nothing at all to do
>with the
> > > > >headlamp switch. All it does, is feed power to two relays,
>which in
> > > > >turn actually carry the load to the low, and high beams.
>However, the
> > > > >headlight switch does carry the load for 10 external lights,
>and
> > > > >anwhere from 6 to 11 internal lights. Let me break it down.
> > > > >
> > > > >External:
> > > > >4x Side Indicators
> > > > >2x Front Markers
> > > > >2x Rear Markers
> > > > >2x License Plate Lights
> > > > >
> > > > >Internal
> > > > >5x Binnacle Lights
> > > > >1x Cigarette Lighter
> > > > >1x Shifter Indicator (if Automatic)
> > > > >4x A/C Panel Lights (if dimmer bypass jumper installed)
> > > > >
> > > > >Now that's a helluva lot of lights to try and power, just thru
>one
> > > > >small switch. And you still have to remember that you've also
>got
> > > > >several relays that are feed thru the switch as well. But, the
>switch
> > > > >can do it, as many other cars out there do, as this is a
>common design
> > > > >(so don't blame DMC!) But as soon as you get the slightest of
>shorts,
> > > > >it will kill the switch.
> > > > >
> > > > >Now the circuits here are fused, but only for the individual
>circuits,
> > > > >and not for all of them together as a whole, to try and
>protect the
> > > > >headlight switch itself (once again, a common design). Fusing
>the
> > > > >switch isn't nessisarry, and could really be a hastle if some
>how, the
> > > > >fuse did blow. Installing a relay is the key to protecting the
>switch,
> > > > >by isolating the individual circuits, and letting the fuses
>continue
> > > > >to do their job.
> > > > >
> > > > >Otherwise, if you don't wish to modify the car, keep your
>sockets and
> > > > >electrical connections clean, and switch over the lights to
>LEDs when
> > > > >possible. You could safely swap the license plate lamps on the
> > > > >outside, and ALL of the internal lamps on the inside. This
>alone would
> > > > >greatly reduce the load on both the switch, and the wiring.
> > > > >
> > > > >-Robert
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > >
>
>
>

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