RE: [DMCForum] Re: Gas alternatives, then?
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RE: [DMCForum] Re: Gas alternatives, then?
- From: "timnagin" <timnagin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 18:28:55 -0400
A lot of diesel powered trucks come with block heaters installed from the
factory.
As I was reading this about having two tanks, why not do the conversion on a
truck or SUV instead? A lot of those already have dual tanks as well, and
all you do is throw a switch to change tanks. One tank could have dino
diesel and the other veggie stuff.
I think smelling French fries all day would make me ill.
Greg
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Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 5:53 PM
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Subject: [DMCForum] Re: Gas alternatives, then?
The fuel from a consumer POV, not a MSDS perspective, is certainly
NOT the same. If you have to give special consideration to the fuel
to heat it up, even to the extent of having to preheat an engine
block in cold weather, it most certainly is NOT the same. Especailly
when considering the pollution created by an electrial plant, to run
the block heater, in far from freezing climates.
I'm not saying that this isn't doable from yours and mines
persepective. However, when it boils down to the idiot consumer who
figures that all they need to keep driving a car forever is a gas
card and a set of keys, it's NOT a viable solution. 2 seperate fuel
tanks alone, even if you could automate the rest of the procedure, is
just too complicated. If not defeating the purpose of being cost-
effective.
-Robert
--- In DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Ryan Wright <ryanpwright@xxxx> wrote:
> On 8/16/05, therealdmcvegas <dmcvegas@xxxx> wrote:
> > The problem with the "greasle" set up is that it requires you to
keep
> > the fuel warm, and possibly alternate fuels.
>
> True. Keeping the fuel warm is fully automatic with the greasel
kits.
> Waste engine heat does this for you. You don't have to plug it in at
> night, etc, the veggie oil only needs to be warm when you're using
it.
>
> You do have to start & stop on diesel, so you'll have two fuel
tanks.
> This is a bit of a hassle. I've read somewhere that people have come
> up with modifications to eliminate this hassle. It seems like a
minor
> problem to overcome:
>
> (from the greasel FAQ section):
> "Q. What happens if I forget to shut down on diesel?"
> "A. Its not the end of the world. If it is summer time, more than
> likely it will start up with just a few more seconds of cranking
than
> normal. If it is in the dead of winter you will need to plug in the
> block heater and get the engine warm before you attempt to start the
> engine. It is not an issue of permanent damage though, just an
> inconvenience."
>
> > Only rendered biodiesel can truley be poured, and stored just like
> > petroleum diesel can.
>
> Huh? You can pour and store veggie oil the same as diesel. It's just
> another liquid and requires no special storage techniques. Biodiesel
> simply has the advantage of being able to throw it in any diesel
> engine and go, whereas pure veggie oil requires modifications to the
> vehicle.
>
> -Ryan
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