Re: [DMCForum] The 2nd Amendment

[Martin Gutkowski <martin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Whatever you say about Bowling for Columbine, and I really am no expert 
on this, I don't think you can debunk the ststistics on gun DEATHS in 
the US compared to other countries, including those for whom guns are 
legal. Look at Canada. That bit of the film was really shocking.

BFC looked at possible reasons for the disparity, and pointed largely at 
the media in the US being responsible. Can you disprove or point to 
anyhting else?

Handguns were banned in the UK after the Dunblane massacre. At the time 
I was against the ban - I had a friend at school (then) who shot 
handguns as a hobby - but you can't argue that the figures speak for 
themselves.

I'm anti-gun. I don't think less of those who are pro-gun and keep/use 
them responsibly, but that 1% of people who don't, generate 99% of the 
problems. Outright ban? Sure there will be black market guns, but when 
someone is killed in a gun crime, it's national news here - and that 
happens maybe twice a year!

Martin

cruznmd wrote:

> Martin I would never presume to say that England or Australia were
> wrong for banning handguns and that you should reverse that decision
> but I'm glad we aren't doing that here and I wish people would quit
> telling us how to run our country.
>
> If you ban weapons then the only people who won't have them are law-
> abiding citizens. A criminal can and will still obtain them. I've
> been to England several times and I love the place but the thought of
> the thousands of "big-brother" security cameras posted every where
> over there makes me shudder.
>
> I actively fight against these cameras in the U.S. I do not want the
> government to monitor me, nor do I want the federal government's
> protection, nor can the federal government even provide me with
> protection. The only purpose these devices serve is to intrude upon
> my life, and record the crime as it happened. I'll be long dead or
> robbed before any watching law office dispatches a unit to assist me.
> Don't take this the wrong way, but all of those cameras failed to
> prevent the recent events in London.
>
> Every study I've read shows that violent crime increased not
> decreased once handguns were banned in England and Australia. If you
> can post some links to studies that show the opposite I'd be pleased
> to read them.
>
> As for me, until the 2nd amendment is repealed, I will continue to
> own arms and defend my home with them. I have tried very hard to be a
> responsible citizen/owner by combining my military training with
> safety courses and common-sense storage techniques and having open
> discussions with my family.
>
> Oh- as for "Bowling for Columbine", if you insist on watching
> propoganda by Michael Moore, please at least balance it out by
> reading or watching some reports from other viewpoints. I'm getting a
> little tired of people judging America based soley on episodes of
> Jerry Springer, "Judge Judy" and Michael Moore. These people do not
> represent the majority of thinking Americans.
>
> Rich A.
> #5335
>

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