Re: [DMCForum] Re: Clutch woes

[Ryan Wright <ryanpwright@xxxxxxxxx>]

Holy crap, then, I think that's the problem. Thankfully I paid
attention when I took it apart this time, so I know which way I had it
installed.

There are two "things" that stick out from the clutch disk:

1. The splined shaft.
2. The funny center part with the springs in it.

The side that has the springs in it, is also the side where the shaft
sticks out the least. Here is a picture of that side:

http://www.ryanwright.com/tmp/dclutch/1.jpg

So what I'm hearing is, THIS side should go toward the flywheel?
Because, I had it installed with this side toward the pressure plate.
See, the funny center part with the springs in it just fits right down
into the cavity on the pressure plate. So I assumed this is how it
went. (In the picture above, if you let the clutch disk fall into the
pressure plate that's sitting on the floor, that's how I had it).

And this could cause my exact problem?

So if I just reverse this and put it all back together, I should be
good as gold? Or is it possible I damaged something and should buy
some new parts?

And it looks like I can forget that stupid clip on the clutch fork
then, too. Sweet. I'll remove what's left of it and leave it at that.

-Ryan

On 6/12/05, Matt Spittle <mds328@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> You'll notice the splined hollow shaft in the clutch sticks out
> further on one side than the other.  The side it sticks out least on
> is the side that faces the flywheel.
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> Matt
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> --- In DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Ryan Wright <ryanpwright@xxxx> wrote:
> > Well, I don't know, actually. How do I tell which is the front and
> > back and how they should go in?
> >
> > -Ryan
> >
> > On 6/12/05, DMCVIN6683 <dmcvin6683@xxxx> wrote:
> > > When you originally installed the clutch did you put the clutch plate
> > > in correctly because there sometimes is a front and back to the clutch
> > > and they are different from each other either to an offset or the way
> > > the clutch is attached to the disc. If you did put it in backwards
> this
> > > would explain all of your problems if the delorean has a front and
> back
> > > to the clutch
> > >
> > > I dont know if this is true with all cars.
> > >
> > > Mark V
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Jun 12, 2005, at 5:46 PM, Ryan Wright wrote:
> > >
> > > > Quick background: I replaced my clutch last fall. Replaced most
> > > > everything - seals, bearings, disk, master/slave cylinders,
> line, etc.
> > > > Flywheel was machined at Napa. The clip on the clutch fork was
> broken,
> > > > so we engineered a fix. Everything worked fine until roughly two
> weeks
> > > > ago, the clutch began engaging only at the very top of pedal travel.
> > > > Like it was already worn out. Things went from working great to
> barely
> > > > working immediately; there was no "slow degredation" - one day
> > > > everything was perfect, the next it wasn't. I bled the clutch but
> > > > nothing changed. I drove it two more weeks trying to delay the
> > > > inevitable, but last Thursday the clutch began slipping so I parked
> > > > the car. It's a daily driver, so there are ~5,000 miles on the new
> > > > clutch. Also, this is the Centerforce complete system kit from
> Grady.
> > > >
> > > > The transmission is now out. I took some pictures because I don't
> > > > fully understand what the problem is.
> > > >
> > > > Full flywheel pic:
> http://www.ryanwright.com/tmp/dclutch/flywheel.jpg
> > > > Close-up: http://www.ryanwright.com/tmp/dclutch/flywheel_close.jpg
> > > >
> > > > Looks like the area where the clutch disk goes is worn down quite a
> > > > bit. How is this possible? I do not abuse the clutch - at all.
> Was it
> > > > simply machined down too far? Or maybe it had been turned in the
> past,
> > > > before I owned the car, and was on its last legs already? The disk
> > > > area is *slightly* higher than the outside ring, but not by
> much. Do I
> > > > need a new flywheel?
> > > >
> > > > There is another potential issue: The little clip on the back of the
> > > > clutch fork broke off. It was already damaged when I replaced the
> > > > clutch last fall. We rigged up a fix (which held), but the "Y"
> part of
> > > > the clip at the end gave up and went who-knows-where. Could this
> cause
> > > > the clutch travel to change and the clutch disk to slip? Do I need a
> > > > new clutch fork? Can I just buy that little clip?
> > > >
> > > > Picture of fork: http://www.ryanwright.com/tmp/dclutch/fork.jpg
> > > >
> > > > The pressure plate and clutch disk have some interesting patterns on
> > > > them. Not sure if that's normal:
> > > >
> > > > Pressure plate: http://www.ryanwright.com/tmp/dclutch/plate.jpg
> > > > Closeup: http://www.ryanwright.com/tmp/dclutch/plateclose.jpg
> > > >
> > > > Clutch disk: http://www.ryanwright.com/tmp/dclutch/disk.jpg
> > > > Closeup: http://www.ryanwright.com/tmp/dclutch/diskclose.jpg
> > > >
> > > > At this point I am unsure how to proceed, and could really use your
> > > > advice. :)
> > > >
> > > > Thank you,
> > > >
> > > > -Ryan
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