Re: [DMCForum] God & DeLorean - Actually "on topic"

[jordan rubin <nuttenschleuder@xxxxxxxxx>]

Mr. Yocom sneeks in a jab from yesteryear, again
blocked by my special force field which derives its
power off of the hatred of the right wing idology.

While not trying to rekindle an old debate.....

Actually thought about that thread a few months ago as
I was reading my latest anti rightwing propaganda book
by George Carlin (an atheist) who does a lovely
line-by-line of the declaration of Independence,
stopping at the end of each sentence to break down the
irony of white male god fearing Christian slave owners
preaching freedom and the pursuit of happiness for
white male god fearing Christian slave owners. I
stress male however, as women weren't exactly first
class citizens back then. 

Do you have Carlins books on the compound?  No no not
for burning.... for reading.   

:)


--- Shannon Yocom <ssdelorean@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Even though I wasn't apart of the prior non-religion
> thread pact I was honoring
> it just to be nice. I was reminded of JZD's funeral
> after reading the recent God
> posts the other day and past weeks. 
> 
> At John DeLorean's viewing/wake one of his brother's
> (Jack DeLorean) was passing
> out little Gideon New Testament Bibles to people
> here and there with a page in
> the back in memory of John. He also prepared an open
> letter which is below.
> 
> Warning: The Marcs, Avis, VBs & Jordans may not like
> the following one bit, even
> Father Walt or Brother Bill may theologically
> disagree. Read at own risk. I'm
> merely posting for those who may actually be
> interested & the fact that it is
> technically an "on topic" God post (being about the
> man & his family). I will now
> pretend to crawl back into the Kansas commune in
> which Jordan thinks I live ;-)
> 
> Shannon Y
> 16506
> 
> ---------------------
> "quote"
> 
> Statement of Jack Z. DeLorean   3-23-05
> Permission granted for publication in entirety only.
> 
> To Set the Record Straight
> 
> John was not the only one on trial in the cocaine
> incident, our government was
> also on trial. 
> 
> Is there anyone on the face of the Earth that is
> above temptation? What can you
> say about an FBI that plants an illegal substance
> seeking to entrap and accuse a
> person of a crime?
> 
> Does not Scripture instruct that temptation comes
> from Satan and does not the
> very name Satan mean ?accuser?? Does not Satan tempt
> people and then accuse them
> before God? How is that different from what the FBI
> did? John was acquitted but
> the FBI was convicted of moral crime.
> 
> When Muslim leaders call our great country the great
> Satan, are they entirely
> wrong? When we have slaughtered over 40 million of
> our unborn children, those
> that would eliminate the social security deficiency
> we read about every day, what
> is wrong here? Has any nation in history done such a
> thing? They talk about a
> woman?s right to choose, what about the baby?s right
> to live? Is it any wonder
> that we are exporting our nation?s wealth and, as
> Warren Buffet says, are we
> headed toward a ?Sharecropper?s Society??
> 
> God says ?Righteousness exalteth a nation: but sin
> is a reproach to any people.?
> Are we on the way down? This great county has a
> Judeo-Christian foundation, but
> it is crumbling. Should we repair the foundation
> before the house collapses?
> 
> John?s downfall was not the worst thing that ever
> happened to him; it was the
> best. The FBI was not responsible for John?s
> problems; our family and all those
> who prayed for him are responsible. The FBI trap
> failed but the Hound of Heaven
> did not fail. It was no coincidence that financing
> was arranged in New York at
> precisely the time he walked into the FBI snare in
> L.A. This incident brought him
> into Christ?s kingdom and that is a bargain at any
> price.
> 
> God?s ways are not our ways, nor are his thoughts
> our thoughts, for as high as
> the heavens are above the earth are His ways and
> thoughts above ours. Scripture
> tells us not many wise men after the flesh, not many
> mighty, not many noble, are
> called. Christ says ?It is easier for a camel to go
> through the eye of a needle,
> than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of
> God.? ?By humility and the fear
> of the Lord are riches and honor and life.?
> 
> John, by his own admission, was anything but humble
> before his fall. It was a
> difficult road for him but, with God?s grace, he
> overcame. Christ says, ?He that
> overcomes shall inherit all things; and I will be
> his God, and he shall be my
> son.? All things are made by Christ and are the
> property of Christ. Christ gives
> joint ownership to all believers. If we are too
> proud to come to Christ, we?ll
> never know Him. Before his fall, John would day ?I
> don't like to ask God for
> anything.? He really was saying, as are many others,
> I don?t need God.
> 
> John, along with every born again believer in
> Christ, is now wealthy beyond all
> imagination. He made his best deal ever when he
> accepted Christ.
> We celebrate Christmas and Easter. But how many
> today have actually accepted
> God?s gift of His only begotten Some for he
> redemption of their soul? The Bible
> says ?For all have sinned and fall short of the
> glory of God?, that is, failed to
> exhibit God?s character. ?The wages of sin is death,
> but the gift of God is
> eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.?
> 
> The Bible tells us that if we believe that Jesus
> Christ is the Son of God, that
> he died to pay the price for our sins and arose from
> the dead for our
> justification, we need only ask for His forgiveness
> and we receive eternal life.
> ?But as many as received Him, to them He gave the
> right to become the children of
> God...? What?s hard to understand about that?
> 
> We are very grateful to the Lord Jesus Christ for
> John?s, and our, salvation.
> 
> "end quote"
> -------------------
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