Re: [DMCForum] Re: Videos

["Videobob Moseley" <videobob@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Mark, all of what you are saying is absolutely true.
I buy items at wholesale, in some cases I modify them, repackage them,
write manuals for each product, advertise it and mark the price up.
That is all absolutely true.
There is a cost to doing business, and an average markup.
What I don't understand is why it is when I do it, it is "highway robbery"
but for everyone else it is just business?
I don't run a charity here, and there is no charity in indulging people
with DeLorean collectables.
These are toys, and should be paid for.
I am running a business Marc.

This is the standard retail business MO.
That's how it works, wholesale, retail.
The reason I make $8 off a $2 cost of a DVD is because I spent several 
thousand
dollars on a DVD duplication system, with a thermal printer, a color disc 
printer,
a $15,000 computer that runs all this stuff, and I also had to acquire the 
video,
edit it, clean it up, compile it and store it.
Then I have to pay to advertise it, pay for my website, pay for monthly 
bandwidth,
pay for ebay and Paypal fees..... so you see it is not all found money.
I run a television production studio here.
Besides that, I have to take the time out of my day to drive to the disc 
supplier
and invest into stock, I have to take the time to burn and print the discs, 
put them
in envelopes, fill out the labels and take them to the post office.
It might not be ditch digging work but it is time consuming.

I consider it a service, the people who get to enjoy watching this wonderful 
video
are thankful that they got to see it. Otherwise it would not exist and they 
would
have gone without.

You know, you always mention my LED's and how I mark them up.
How come no one has ever mentioned that Don Stegar sells a similar set for 
$39.99?
This is $10.00 more than mine.
I am willing to bet that almost everything he sells is marked up generously.
This is not a jab at Don, I like Don, but I am proving the point that your 
prejudice
is biased because I have never heard you complaining about anyone's else's 
prices.

By the way, Tamir does sell a copy of his own video from his site.
It is very good and I recommend it.
He also sells the replacement stainless steel labels, or at least he 
advertises them.
I also bought a set of those.

I feel that the ability to buy this stuff from each other is a great 
privilege.
I also think that I deserve the chump change I get for profits off of my 
stuff.
If not had been for my researching the LED's and bringing them to public 
awareness
some of you would not have figured out how to circumvent me.
Either way I feel I get the credit for it - because NO ONE else was offering 
these.
I feel the same way about my side stripes, no one else took the time to find 
the material
and make exact replicas of the stripes - people COPIED me but I still 
deserve the credit.
I have never seen anyone else make vinyl bumper letters before.
The ones I make look fantastic, and only $10.00.
You could not get those designed and cut out for $10.00 anywhere - no way.

Plus, as a gesture I don't charge for shipping of my products.
Most sellers gouge the shit out of you with "shipping and handling" - NOT 
ME.

So as business goes, I think I do good business Marc.
I think my prices are fair, and my quality is good.
I don't see what it is I am doing wrong and why you don't like it.
There is no other explanation other than you had disagreed with me in the 
past
and had become biased against everything I do.
It is childish and silly - cut it out.

- Videobob

>From: Marc Levy <malevy_nj@xxxxxxxxx>
>Reply-To: DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>To: DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: Re: [DMCForum] Re: Videos
>Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 05:48:44 -0700 (PDT)
>
>VB does it for profit.  I don't see how Tamir is
>making money off of his site.  He does not even sell
>advertising space!
>
>So, in comparing Tamir to Bob we can say BOTH made a
>significant effort in collecting this footage,
>digitizing it, and editing it...  Where they diverge
>is how they choose to distribute the material.
>
>Tamir spends his own money (I assume) to host this
>material on the Internet.  Large downloads = high
>bandwidth = more expensive hosting fees.  Yet, he does
>not charge anyone anything.
>
>Bob buys some blank DVD-R's, copies the video, and
>puts it in the mail.  A process that costs about $2.
>He is making a $8 per disk profit. (I am only talking
>about his disk that contain footage that he does not
>own)
>
>Yes, I know about the time to blah blah blah.. But for
>means of comparing Bob to Tamir, those things are
>pretty much equal.
>
>When you look at the DVD sales, along with VB's other
>items (over priced items like Antennas, LED's, Radio
>Harness), it sets a tone for the way the guy does
>business.  IMHO, the profit he demands for doing
>minimal research in to sourcing parts is highway
>robbery.  It is not like the guy has a R&D facility
>where he is inventing a new and better LED.
>
>And, NO.. My motivation has nothing to do with
>religion or Bob's views on social issues, because many
>times I agree with him even though I find his
>presentation of those opinions are somewhat insulting.
>
>... Again, I am not finding fault with Bob the man..
>Just some of the things he does.
>
>--- therealdmcvegas <dmcvegas@xxxxxxx> wrote:
><SNIP>
> > With this said however, I seriously think that all
> > things considered
> > here, I think that VideoBob has been unfairly gotten
> > a bad rap here.
> > I honestly do not see the difference between what
> > Tamir has done with
> > his website, and what VideoBob did for his. Both
> > offered up DeLorean
> > material that they believed the community was
> > interested in. Tamir
> > offers short clips for download and distribution off
> > of his website,
> > and VB offers longer full length videos, available
> > on DVD. And of
> > course he charges for his time to make said copies
> > for others. He's
> > had to scan, and encode the video, as well as take
> > the time to
> > contruct the DVD menus, etc., Just as Tamir took the
> > time to scan,
> > encode, crop, and upload. And neihter are taking the
> > time to lay
> > claim to any ownership.
><SNIP>
>
>
>
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