[DMCForum] Re: What's up with Death?

["Josh Porter" <joshp1986@xxxxxxxxx>]

Robert,
Thanks for defending me. If I have learned one thing from this list, 
it's to stand up for myself and don't listen to the crap people give 
out. I've learned that you can give it as long as you can take it. I 
love this community.

Josh
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--- In DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "therealdmcvegas" <dmcvegas@xxxx> 
wrote:
> Well, you are right about one thing, Farrar. I shouldn't have jumped
> into the conversation. From what I could tell, you seemed to be
> singling Josh out, to try and make fun of him. Such as the comments
> that he was reminding you why you should never have kids, etc.
> 
> I have plenty of empathy for others (I'm just selective about how I
> distribute it). In fact, your comments were what pissed me off, and
> made me want to jump into the conversation to defend him. I remember
> what it was like to join the DML, and take allot of shit from people
> who thought that I was too young to own a DeLorean. So that 
triggered
> that angry reaction out of me.
> 
> But you are right, it was not my place to jump into the 
conversation.
> After all, if someone is going to pick on another person here, then
> that person needs to learn to defend themselves, and fight their own
> battles.
> 
> As for me only caring about anyone but myself, believe what you 
want.
> But thank me for >NOT< sending you a condolence. I have had close
> family members die, and all within a short time period as well. And 
I
> know what it was like for me. But I honestly have no clue what these
> losses are like for you, nor what they mean to you. I don't know 
what
> you're going thru, because while grief is involved, the experience 
is
> different for all of us. Perhaps you feel like you've lost a part of
> yourself, because you'll never see that close person again. Maybe 
you
> feel a sense of relief because a long period of suffering has 
finally
> come to an end for that person you care about. Maybe you're torn,
> because you feel a bit of guilt for some reason. You didn't visit 
them
> enough, or perhaps it was someone that you were related to closely,
> but you don't feel as saddened as you *think* you should be. I don't
> know what things are like for you, nor will I pretend I do. The
> experience is different for us all.
> 
> The only thing that I am going to share with you, is that I couldn't
> stand it when people I knew were trying to go out of their way to 
show
> empathy twards me, and my situation. Either they tried too hard, and
> came off as being insincere. Or worse yet, they tried to fucking
> one-up me, by trying to compare their own greif to mine, in an 
effort
> to convince me that they had suffered greater than I have.
> 
> Now, if you venting some anger with you helps you to deal with this
> situation, then go ahead. And if you want to continue making me a
> target of your frustration, then go right ahead. It doesn't bother 
me
> a bit. But, if you are trying to hurt me, if that is indeed your end
> goal, then realize that you haven't. And it's not because I'm 
callous.
> I'm just selective about what I let bother me.
> 
> Just as I don't show favor to anyone who walks by, I don't despise
> just anyone either. If I just loved everyone, what value would that
> place on my love? Same with my hatred and anger. Know that I simply
> respect your existance.
> 
> And if none of this makes sense to you, come back and read it in six
> months.
> 
> -Robert
> 
> 
> 
> --- In DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Farrar <dochudkins@xxxx> wrote:
> > Singling somebody out and trying to make fun of them?
> > 
> > What the fuck are you smoking, Robert?
> > 
> > You're the guy who said that when I grow up I am going
> > to be a DRUNK MARRIED MAN HITTING ON TEENAGE BOYS. Or
> > does that not qualify as SINGLING SOMEBODY OUT AND
> > TRYING TO MAKE FUN OF THEM? Do you remember writing
> > THAT ONE? I can find the post for you. Yes, I read it.
> > I ignored it because it wasn't worth replying to.
> > 
> > How EXACTLY should I phrase my questions about
> > HISTORY? "Oh, pardon me sir, but do you recall the
> > court case in the 1980s where a man murdered four of
> > my friend's family? I was wondering if you might be
> > related to this sweet girl I am friends with." I
> > figured with an Arkansas native on the list I would
> > ask a question about Arkansas history, without
> > exposing too much information. I guess that is
> > singling him out, since he is from Arkansas, but it
> > wasn't making fun of him. I was merely curious.
> > 
> > I can safely assume you don't give a fuck about
> > anybody but yourself. So leave me alone. When I ask a
> > question of somebody, I expact an answer from HIM not
> > an accusation from Left Field. If you noticed, Josh
> > answered the question and didn't take it personally,
> > so obviously he understood when I ASKED A SIMPLE
> > QUESTION.
> > 
> > Take your own advice and ease up off of ME. I've had a
> > rough time recently, not that you have noticed or made
> > ONE SINGLE HELPFUL FUCKING COMMENT TOWARDS ME. The
> > same day that I found out my uncle scheduled Grandad's
> > funeral so that I couldn't make it, you accuse me of
> > being a future closeted homosexual. Today, the day OF
> > the memorial service eight hundred miles away, I check
> > my email and NOW you're accusing me of making fun of
> > somebody -- wrongly. Bad timing? I hope. Bad taste?
> > Undoubtedly. I have been made fun of all my life. I
> > jibe people here because I am friends with them. Do
> > you not do that with your friends? One of mine calls
> > me motherfucker a lot, but that is because she's my
> > friend and I know she loves me. 
> > 
> > I try to be friendly and jovial on this forum. Most
> > people appreciate it. From you, all I get is abuse and
> > accusations. Are you THAT shallow? Have you NO
> > capacity for empathy with other humans? Have YOU ever
> > had a bad day? Made a bad joke? Buried a close family
> > member, or four or five?
> > 
> > Fuck this. And fuck you.
> > 
> > Farrar
> > 
> > --- therealdmcvegas <dmcvegas@xxxx> wrote:
> > > 
> > > Dammnit Farrar, ease up off Josh.
> > > 
> > > It's cool and all to have debates here, because in
> > > the end, we can all
> > > at least agree to disagree. But don't single anyone
> > > out to try and
> > > make fun of them.
> > > 
> > > -Robert
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Farrar
> > > <dochudkins@xxxx> wrote:
> > > > Spring brings death. 
> > > > 
> > > > --- Josh Porter <joshp1986@xxxx> wrote:
> > > > > very close to what I 
> > > > > hear of 1980. something like 3/4 of one
> > > generation
> > > > > of my family died 
> > > > > all in the same year.
> > > > 
> > > > Was that that Simmons dude that Gov. Clinton
> > > signed
> > > > the execution papers for in record time and all
> > > that?
> > > > 
> > > > Farrar
> > > > 
> > > > I always thank the dinosaurs for a plentiful
> > > supply of 10W30.
> > > > 
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